I vote for email...

IMHO, If you work for a company that doesn't have email and a POP or IMAP 
server then perhaps you should work on that instead.  If it does you should 
be using your work email address, rather than a personal domain, if your 
Orion use is work related.

It looks like you're running your polozoff.com mail server off an AT&T DSL 
connection; consider using procmail or something similar to forward a copy 
of orion-interest mail to your work email address.

Configuring and running a news server (been there) isn't as easy as it 
might seem, particularly if you're concerned about security, the periodic 
news DOS attacks, spam, etc.  If the newsgroup is publicly fed, or the 
spammers stumble across the server (they will),  you're broadcasting all 
our addresses out to the spammer community.

Besides, the Orion team's resources would be much better spent on 
documentation.  Otherwise they're going to fail and this list won't matter 
anyway.

Kirk

BTW, ejb-interest seems to have died after some clueless idiot started 
resending the last couple month's posts back to the list.

At 10:01 AM 10/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't agree.  A newsgroup is a better way of categorizing topics.  If
>you don't believe me take a look at the Weblogic and Toplink newsgroups.
>Mailing lists are good for simple discussions.  Filtering emails is not a
>reasonable solution for topical categorization of messages.  Especially if
>you have to use a web based email client at work (because of a firewall)
>and have a stand alone client at home.  Whereas a newsgroup always
>contains a set hierarchy, whether you access from deja.com or a stand
>alone client.
>
>-Alexandre
>
>On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:53:00 +0200
>    Robert Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>- - -
>
>Could not agree more. don't any of you subscribe to other tech lists? I'm
>surprised that there are people using orion that are not subscribed to
>ejb-interest (excellent list and a must for people working with ejb
>professionally IMHO) which has at least as much traffic as this one here.
>Please learn how to use a mail client with filters and let's deal with a
>high volume as soon as there is something to deal with and let's not start
>a religious war on newgroup vs. mailingl ist (I'm pro mailing list btw
>;-)). the negative side effects (people not knowing where to look,
>crossposting etc.) would clearly outweight the benefits of splitting up
>the
>list IMHO.
>
>robert
>
>At 19:21 18.10.00 , you wrote:
> >IMO, the mailing list is just fine. If there are too many messages for
>your
> >inbox, then you should filter it away. All the popular mail clients will
> >handle this.

<snip>

> >--
> >David S. Kenzik
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://kenzik.com
> >Original Music - http://mp3.com/text
> >
> >
> >   Joseph B. Ottinger said...
> >
> >  > It's quite feasible for me to set up a news server (nntp, usenet
>style) on
> >  > my server if that's a viable solution. It'll take me a little bit of
>time,
> >  > as I'm not exactly familiar with running INN, but I can figure it
>out.
> >  >
> >  > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote:
> >  >
> >  > > I would agree too. I think if you split the list into ejb and web,
> > it might

<snip>

> >  > > > -----Original Message-----
> >  > > > From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >  > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:51 AM
> >  > > > To: Orion-Interest
> >  > > > Subject: Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could
>split
> >  > > > the list
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > >
> >  > > > > Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to
> >  > > > move these
> >  > > > > messages into their own folder.
> >  > > >
> >  > > > Good idea.

<snip>

> >  >
> >  > -----------------------------------------------------------
> >  > Joseph B. Ottinger               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>(-) Robert Krüger


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