I don't agree. A newsgroup is a better way of categorizing topics. If
you don't believe me take a look at the Weblogic and Toplink newsgroups.
Mailing lists are good for simple discussions. Filtering emails is not a
reasonable solution for topical categorization of messages. Especially if
you have to use a web based email client at work (because of a firewall)
and have a stand alone client at home. Whereas a newsgroup always
contains a set hierarchy, whether you access from deja.com or a stand
alone client.
-Alexandre
On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 09:53:00 +0200
Robert Krueger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Could not agree more. don't any of you subscribe to other tech lists? I'm
surprised that there are people using orion that are not subscribed to
ejb-interest (excellent list and a must for people working with ejb
professionally IMHO) which has at least as much traffic as this one here.
Please learn how to use a mail client with filters and let's deal with a
high volume as soon as there is something to deal with and let's not start
a religious war on newgroup vs. mailingl ist (I'm pro mailing list btw
;-)). the negative side effects (people not knowing where to look,
crossposting etc.) would clearly outweight the benefits of splitting up
the
list IMHO.
robert
At 19:21 18.10.00 , you wrote:
>IMO, the mailing list is just fine. If there are too many messages for
your
>inbox, then you should filter it away. All the popular mail clients will
>handle this.
>
>I am sure I am not the only one who feels this way, nor am the only one
who
>belongs to many other special-interest lists, all delivered via email and
>filtered.
>
>I belong to roughly 40 or so development lists, some of which average
40-50
>messages a day. They happily get filtered away into their own folders.
(In
>fact, I just archived my Postfix users list from the past year-- 14,000+
>messages.)
>
>If the list does need to be split, it should be split by the Orion folks
as
>they deem necessary.
>
>Please realize however, when talking about splitting the list into
different
>development disciplines, that is no longer Orion specific, it now becomes
a
>Java app development list-- which there are already many.
>
>If someone volunteers to setup a web-based "message board" or a separate
>NNTP server, then that is their perogative. But I do believe that not
>keeping the product support channels centralized will not only confuse
the
>new users of Orion, but also be the cause of frustration trying to find
out
>which method of support is actually productive.
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>--
>David S. Kenzik
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>
> Joseph B. Ottinger said...
>
> > It's quite feasible for me to set up a news server (nntp, usenet
style) on
> > my server if that's a viable solution. It'll take me a little bit of
time,
> > as I'm not exactly familiar with running INN, but I can figure it
out.
> >
> > On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Duffey, Kevin wrote:
> >
> > > I would agree too. I think if you split the list into ejb and web,
> it might
> > > limit the traffic a bit. Also, maybe a newbie list, or possibly a
> mailing
> > > list about how to configure Orion, set it up, install ejbs,
servlets,
> > > applications, etc..there are a lot of questions on that front. A
> fourth (the
> > > first three being web, ejb, and configuration/setup) would be
database
> > > related, if possible.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Miles Daffin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2000 9:51 AM
> > > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > > Subject: Re: 2 many messages - News Server needed. - Or we could
split
> > > > the list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Actually, I think the mail list is fine. I use a filter to
> > > > move these
> > > > > messages into their own folder.
> > > >
> > > > Good idea.
> > > >
> > > > > However, I do feel that some improvement is possible. I
> > > > recomend splitting
> > > > > the list into a few other lists.
> > > >
> > > > Yes - create 2 news groups. The main point of this is the
> > > > automatic ordering
> > > > of threads that this allows, in my email client at least. I
> > > > can see a root
> > > > message and the whole, dialogic line of consequent messages.
> > > > What's so wrong
> > > > with that?
> > > >
> > > > > Probably the most obvious split is between
> > > > > developers using Orion and administers trying to maintain,
> > > > configure and
> > > > > install it.
> > > >
> > > > Like I said - 2 news groups.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://cupid.suninternet.com/~joeo HOMES.COM Developer
> >
>
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