The groomsmen at my wedding were named Schotanus, Schloss and Schnakenberg
-- no kidding -- if they all lived in the same city, they'd be on the same
page in the phonebook. So, bring on the Germanic hordes!
Now try to stay focused: Randy's idea was whether or not MySQL and Orion
should talk about "ways to mutually promote or bridge the two products".
Just talk. No earth-shaking changes.
Yes, HSQL is in the Orion Server download, but, no one said anything about
binding MySQL to Orion.
Put down your crack pipe for a minute and open your EJB 101 book: EJB
containers don't care what data storage mechanism is being used!
Even though Orion and HSQL run differently on different OS's and JVM's,
neither did anyone advocate different versions of Orion for different OS's.
If a dialog between Orion and HSQL can make life easier for the MySQL
lovers, then what's the harm?
Joe, you've probably been banned from the www.mysql.com site forever
anyway, so give it up! :)
Jay
At 08:04 AM 4/19/01 -0500, you wrote:
>On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 05:04:48PM -0600, Jay Armstrong wrote:
>> Fair enough, Mike, but my bottom line was: Why not ... address that issue
>> (having MySQL and Orion folks talk to each other) directly?
>
>Why?
>
>> Randy had a good thought -- the Thought Police should quit stomping on it.
>>
>> The issue is simply whether or not MySQL and Orion should talk. :)
>
>No, because neither one is Bavarian.
>
>Actually... still no, because there's no REASON for them to. If you have
>such a desire, you can use MySQL with Orion. (Why such a desire exists is up
>to you, I suppose.) If you're talking about distributing MySQL *with* Orion,
>which was the original thrust, then NO, a thousand times NO, and let's add a
>few more to that for a total of 1004 NOs. Why? HSQL works because it's an
>integrated solution, for an all-Java distribution of Orion that happens to
>include a servicable database (for very poor values of "servicable"). MySQL,
>unless it's undergone a sea change to be all Java (that nobody else in the
>world knows about) can't do the same, so you would have the Windows Orion
>distribution, the Linux Orion distribution, the Solaris Orion distribution
>(obviously the best of them all!), etc. etc. ad nauseum. I can tell you that
>the Orion team wouldn't smile upon having all those builds, and neither
>would I - such a thing violates the whole idea behind Java.
>
>Let's keep our heads about us for once, and drop this silly "Let's bind a
>binary database into Orion" nonsense. Interbase - fine, if we can manage to
>integrate it into the same VM (and it can be done, but I'd want it
>transparently done). But something like Postgres or MySQL? No.
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>Joseph B. Ottinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://epesh.com/ IT Consultant
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