Red1,

It will scare the sh*t of those bureaucrats to get feedback from the rakyat.
Same reason why Warkah for PM site went down so soon. They just couldn't
handle the truth; or more appropriately the volume of the truth....

The Pau lady, nothing bad to say about that coz it was genuinely a good
result for a cottage industry.

Dude holding an exhibition about NKRA will most probably end up a makan2
session for Govt servants at PICC. Anyone who is sane will try to avoid
going to PICC unless absolutely necessary. Perhaps a roadshow will be more
appropriate than a single exhibition. Give a pen freebie or something and
some reading material and hold them in shopping malls. But then again it
will hit a brick wall due to budget constraints. Hmmm...odd they can find
the $$$ to fly Najib and his posse around the world....

Until the Government/Civil Service realises that they exists to serve the
needs of the people (and not a particular group), has the chutzpah to face
and accept the truth and the people are the boss, they will forever be
trapped in a circle of narcissistic idiocy.

As a dyed-to-the-bone Malaysian I would sincerely love to help. But am
seriously demoralised....

Eric

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 8:06 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:

>  One good idea is to do what the main trunk of the govt is doing - hold an
> exhibition of your NKRAs and explain to the crowd so that it reflects the
> excitement as it should. Otherwise we have to depend on the 5,000 per day
> 'pau' lady.
>
> Come to think of it why didn't the govt allow open blogging and voting on
> their NKRAs instead?
>
>
> On 12/22/09 1:05 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote:
>
> ooopppss... sorry tertinggal.
>
> the other reason for oss:
>
>    1. repo : why go to website, download software then double-click ? when
>    a person can simply apt-get or yum on one line ? and it automatically 
> checks
>    for all dependencies ! or set-up your own repo server, and update hundreds
>    of servers automagically.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> current experience with 2 ministries in putrajaya
>>
>> ministry #1 - tender specifically requests for oss. besides cost, the
>> purpose is not to be locked down with licensing. and they can share with the
>> 6 agencies under them.
>>
>> ministry #2 - already knew what feature was needed and required oss so
>> that they can integrate with existing system.
>>
>> other 'overlooked' reason for oss:
>>
>>    1. inhouse development. very few ict officers like to fill long forms,
>>    write kertas kerja, and wait till next year to have a software. and
>>    typically, users wanted it yesterday. so the alternative is download oss 
>> and
>>    have it running by the end of the week.
>>     2. features: spent the whole of the last 2 weeks reading through 58
>>    oss case study awards. what struck me was that 80% of them regarded oss as
>>    superior (the other 20% was in desktop deployments)
>>
>> at the moment the situation is still in the 'trial' stage which means that
>> they are using whatever is available.
>>
>> i constantly look at tenders / requests for quotes specifically for web
>> based applications. more than half specified open source. most recent is
>> from a ministry which specifically requested development on joomla.
>>
>> and it scares the shit out of m$... cutting prices to the govt academics
>> by a huge 85%. tying up with php companies and sponsoring a booth at
>> mygosscon. coming up with installer for several oss cms for windows.
>>
>> instead of bitching, pitch one more time,
>> instead of blaming, fix one more bug
>>
>> we need lots more oss developers.... there are heaps more work that can be
>> done.
>>
>>
>>
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