Which portal would that be? Gov.my? On 22-Dec-2009, at 3:06 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:
well, i have more news to scare the shit out of the vendors the number 1 government portal in malaysia was implemented inhouse by the agency. this included the cms and load balancing - handling 1 million hits. rated top by mdec. and rated highly in the world by united nations. that i would call a world class implementation. in 2004, this inhouse implementation for a top rated website is unheard of. and 5 years from now, we will probably find more. On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Gotta start at the school and tertiary levels. Most of the lecturers will > only know how to code with MS technologies. > > Linux Varsiti is a good attempt but there needs to be a more centralised > and concerted attempt. > > As for Govt, well they will just outsource (good news for service > providers!). If no budget or something that cannot be readily.easily > outsource quite possibly they will abandon the project. > > I am no coder but am willing to help.... > > Eric > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 12:52 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah < > rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> current experience with 2 ministries in putrajaya >> >> ministry #1 - tender specifically requests for oss. besides cost, the >> purpose is not to be locked down with licensing. and they can share with the >> 6 agencies under them. >> >> ministry #2 - already knew what feature was needed and required oss so >> that they can integrate with existing system. >> >> other 'overlooked' reason for oss: >> >> 1. inhouse development. very few ict officers like to fill long forms, >> write kertas kerja, and wait till next year to have a software. and >> typically, users wanted it yesterday. so the alternative is download oss >> and >> have it running by the end of the week. >> 2. features: spent the whole of the last 2 weeks reading through 58 >> oss case study awards. what struck me was that 80% of them regarded oss as >> superior (the other 20% was in desktop deployments) >> >> at the moment the situation is still in the 'trial' stage which means that >> they are using whatever is available. >> >> i constantly look at tenders / requests for quotes specifically for web >> based applications. more than half specified open source. most recent is >> from a ministry which specifically requested development on joomla. >> >> and it scares the shit out of m$... cutting prices to the govt academics >> by a huge 85%. tying up with php companies and sponsoring a booth at >> mygosscon. coming up with installer for several oss cms for windows. >> >> instead of bitching, pitch one more time, >> instead of blaming, fix one more bug >> >> we need lots more oss developers.... there are heaps more work that can be >> done. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Eric Yeoh <msiantuxlo...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Brian, >>> >>> I am sure he does. Since I was in R&D and now in Training, I never really >>> got around looking at the numbers properly. >>> >>> Although I can never attest to its authenticity (or otherwise), from my >>> experience dealing with agencies, there is seems to be a genuine interest in >>> FOSS. >>> >>> As mentioned, I only fear that they will alway associate FOSS with Free >>> as in cost rather than in Freedom. >>> >>> Eric >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 4:45 PM, BRIAN RITCHIE < >>> esqbrianritc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Eric, >>>> >>>> I am sure we can get Kaeru to revert on this if it is indeed his >>>> figures. 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