well put Red1, very much is nice to see the world leader is mumbling about small and petty stuff.. :)
i believed those who went to OSCONF 2009 hear that MDeC CEO mention about the RM 10 Million funding to the Open Source Company again COMPANY and it need to be an MSC COMPANY which applied and approve and applied for funding... we didnt lie red1 and we did not fail... between the year of 2009 till 2010 we funded 48 OPEN SOURCE pre-seed which value 150k X 48 (do the math on your own) and we funded 6 MSC COMPANY on MGS which value at 1.5Million X 6 (do the math again)... xpe xpe because i baik hati let me give you the overall number .... jeng.. jeng..jeng.. total to RM 16.2 MILLION which we have exceed the 10MILLION cap. if you need the list of the company please do send us a FORMAL LETTER requesting for the data and InsyaAllah we will consider your request. i would be bitter too if i do get my hand on some of the $$ which again im telling you do the freeking paper work do it proper do it according to what we ask by the book... :) again we dont bend the rules for you sir... every year MDeC do ask for the audited acc from our MSC company in order for them to exclude themselves from tax and from there we see a huge different on number which representing Open Source Company and we're very proud of the work that we have done directly and indirectly. how can you said that we FAIL if all you have as proof is "habuk" this has been happening twice already tuan accusing us without proof i feel sad for you and i feel sad that you think of us the way that you want to think. late last year i told the community where we will step back and the community need to lead not only on the conference but on the overall state of the movement. i personally have wash my hand on the OSS portfolio but i never turn down anyone who ask for our help. we still stand strong with every one here but being butcher like this making us felt that NO making me feel useless to help you and the rest. what the purpose if none is being appreciated? and none being remember? sit down and think hard my brother Red1 my teacher Red1 be what that you have thought me to be dont go as low as this you are not this man you are better. and do thing better. InsyaAllah tuhan tu maha adil dan saksama kalau rasa dianaya tak kan Dia biarkan kita merana. take care dear World Leader, may the force be with you. regards //rafe On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 7:17 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: > Terima kasih kerana memberi keprihatinan yang mendalam walaupun saya > bukanlah mengunakan nickname female yang mampu menarik perhatian sptmn yg > lain. Kita semua tahu bahawa setiap amalan kita bergerak dari niat (as our > friend thinks sex is a good intention, but it is, as part of nature). > > Pada asasnya, sesebuah gerakan NGO meletakkan niat yang bersifat visi atau > visionary dan bukannya kebajikan atau welfare semata-mata. Ya, memang ada > welfare dalam gerak-kerja kita, dan saya terlibat secara langsung apabila > mengeluarkan rahsia-rahsia kod dan kaedah ERP kepada dunia selama 7 tahun > kebelakangan ini. Negara kita pun ada kebajikan - Kementerian Kebajikan > namanya. Tetapi cubalah mintak. Takkan dapat, kerana syaratnya ketat. > Lagipun bukanlah niat negara kita atau mana-mana negara (hatta negara > Komunis) mampu bersifat kebajikan tanpa sesebuah visi yang membina ekonomi > negara. Itu sebabnya negara komunis amat gagal kerana tiada insentif besar > yang diletakkan di depan mata kita (selain seks bagi nafsu-nafsi kelas lebih > bawah). > > Bagi kita yang ingin memperjuangkan sesuatu bukan setakat periuk nasi > masing-masing, tetapi kebaikan untuk generasi akan, hendaklah melihat kepada > fungsi politik yang lebih wajar, iaitu kembali kepada apa asasnya atau > maksudnya sesebuah gerakan NGO. Kita mampu sebagai NGO dan perlu sebagai > dasar untuk berdepan dengan establishment kerana sifat NGO adalah pressure > group (selain cooperative grouping atau welfare interest). Sedihnya ramai > daripada kita terutamanya dalam kerajaan hari ini tidak membaca social > contract Voltaire dimana apabila rakyat sudah membayar sejumlah cukai yang > besar dari segala aktiviti ekonominya, maka kerajaan mempunyai tanggungjawab > mengembalikan jumlah tersebut dengan setimpalnya. > > Ramai yang menganggap seolah perjuangan kita adalah kebajikan semata-mata > dan seolah-olah kita perlu mengemis dengan ihsan kerajaan untuk mendapat > secebis perhatian atau peruntukkan. > > No, that is blady nonsensical. Ini adalah hak mutlak kita, sebagai rakyat, > yang berlesen pengundi, ber IC biru, berumur akil baligh dan Law Abiding > Citizens untuk mendapat layanan yg sewajarnya. > > Tetapi setakat ini kita tidak bergerak lebih daripada yang remeh-temeh dan > biasa. Kita perlu mengeluarkan satu memoranda keras kepada kerajaan (do them > a favour) supaya mengambil perhatian yang serius dan mengotakan apa jua > janji dari MDec misalnya. > > I believe the PM is not even aware of us nor aware that MDec has failed in > its job. It is not MDec's role to tell its boss if it fails. It is the job > of the NGOs. > > Get it? Sexists included. :) > > Yours Sincerely, > Red1 > > On 2/27/11 4:59 PM, simpleLinux wrote: > > good1... +1! > for this I agreed.. ;p rather than using the name of the government (that > wuz done by **1**) we can arise and show the world what FOSS *in general can > do. let's get into the crowd and support the Open Source community > Malaysia... we can form a big communities of of the > smaller communities..... we can contribute something instead of > just criticizing like the world is ours.. so that we can share codes, or at > least share information.. theehee xD > > > On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Red1 >> >> The adhoc committee is here red1. Its all of us in this list. What we >> are doing now in this list and discussion and meetup is the kick ass, >> to the government. >> >> But we are doing it in our way. >> >> We need to show to GOV that OSS community is here. We need to have >> workshops of OSS knowledge sharing across Malaysia, we need to have >> IPTA and IPTS to have OSS day, we need to get big conference one a >> year going at our own "tahrir square", we need contribution upstream >> start from Pasukan Terjemahan, we need to push for certification in >> OSS, so big-big companies can invest here and use our human resources. >> >> We need to have a bigger crowd of OSS contributors and supporter in >> Malaysia so we can have the political mileage. The biggest crowd in >> OSS. >> >> To tell you the truth, we don't have that mileage yet. We need to >> buildup our community first. >> >> We need community leaders, OSS community teach us everyone can >> contribute, so everyone can be a leaders. This leaders need to get >> their community going and need to set their goal right. >> >> We in OSDC.my (this list) will try to cater all the above but its all >> depend from the support of all OSS community in Malaysia. >> >> Their is NO unwritten policy of supporting proprietary software, its a >> written policy to pick the right company and software that can cater >> to agencies need. The most important are the support and kumpulan >> pakar (expert). >> >> And we in OSS industry, lack of its. I could not point to any local >> OSS company that can have better support in OSS or have thats many >> engineers, developers and management with OSS support. >> >> And for menjadi pelobi. Yes we still can have that but we need to >> prepare facts and figure. How big is the demand for OSS, how big is >> our community and what impact can we have in term of economy. >> >> Red1 Im in for this adhoc committee, but we need to disscuss points >> and facts that we can used if we want this kumpulan pelobi to success. >> >> and >> >> Thank You to friends in MDeC and MAMPU thats keep on supporting us. If >> you want them to keep on supporting us, we need to keep them in OSS >> porfolio or seksyen. To do that we need to show numbers and support to >> their bosses. Baru senang kita hendak melobi dan mereka membantu. >> >> Komuniti OSS buka sahaja mengajar saya tentang gotong royong melakukan >> sesuatu, malah jika mahu membuktikan sesuatu kita perlu melakukan ia >> dahulu baru kita boleh minta orang lain turut bersama kita. >> >> Thank you. >> >> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:58 PM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >> > Dear fellow inmates, i mean freedom fighters. Sorry for this but after >> > watching lots of Al-Jazeerah, it finally hits me. We should no longer be >> > afraid of voicing out our grievances against govt's depts inefficiencies >> > and >> > failures in promoting local talent or at least believing in locals as >> > budding technopreneurs who can one day succeed, given real support >> > instead >> > of intimidation. >> > >> > No, no i am not saying that we are living under a 30 year dictatorship. >> > I am >> > saying we are living in a P. Ramlee's era of been afraid to voice out >> > and >> > that is why P. Ramlee died a pauper, broken man, broken in by his own >> > country. >> > >> > What Tahrir's Square teaches us is that today's youth and mostly in >> > OSDC.my >> > are indeed hungry for change and self-sufficiency in using FOSS, but >> > lacked >> > the support the govt supposedly is there for, which sadly comes in bits >> > and >> > scraps, some big RM10m promise and then silence and denials as well as >> > diversions and excuses. We are worse than Tahrir Square. >> > >> > Such big events happening across the thousand year history of Sahara >> > desert >> > must bring something home to us. It must at least stir us to reach for >> > more >> > solidarity and courage to kick ass. I once again call for the formation >> > of >> > an adhoc committee (non-registered, to hell with ROS) for MOSS to put >> > political pressure on the govt to change the unwritten policy of >> > supporting >> > proprietary software and paying lip service to FOSS all this while. >> > >> > red1 >> > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from and detail about this group > http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information > > MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 > > MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification > http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert > -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification http://survey.mosc.my/mosc-survey-2011-awareness-oss-cert
