> Then, comes another question, who here is actually solving the hard problem > in CS that actually require advance maths. > > 1) Many bro many. Many of these people are just being low profile. 2) Math is important more than to solve hard problems. A good understanding of math helps you to solve simple problems in the most elegant way. Just an example, some programmers without a math background would take 1000 LoC to implement something that took a good coder who is good at math, perhaps 100 LoC?
Just curious anyway > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 4:23 PM, zarul shahrin <zarulshah...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> If you want to be just another "programmer", then you don't need that much >> of math, otherwise, yes math is important. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah < >> rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> ahaks... >>> >>> for a mathematician a simpler answer is n*(n+1)/2 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:57 PM, darXness darXness >>> <darxl...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> math n CS... >>>> IMHO,without math,programming cant go to the next >>>> part.if,else,while,and most of the programming part is derived from >>>> math.and we actually learn that in school.but under Math,not >>>> programming.slowly,we implement in our program.without we knowing,we >>>> actually doint math.just pick some of the code: >>>> >>>> while(i = 0;i<5;i++){ >>>> i; >>>> } >>>> see?we actually doing plus operation there.:D >>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:26 PM, E A Faisal <eafai...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > I'm not formally trained on CS. All my programming knowledge is self >>>> taught. >>>> > So this is my opinion. >>>> > >>>> > Programming is not solely an art. It's both art and science. I >>>> experienced >>>> > countless of times where knowing maths would be extremely useful. >>>> While it's >>>> > true that you can program something without any understanding of math >>>> but I >>>> > learned the hard way that to implement something efficiently and of >>>> high >>>> > quality you still need maths. I once created a middleware that helped >>>> to >>>> > bridge between a system with Hylafax which I needed to write a >>>> scheduler to >>>> > poll fax status from Hylafax. My first implementation was straight >>>> forward, >>>> > without any thought of mathematical model. It worked but it ate up >>>> resources >>>> > needlessly. Though it didn't give any problem but it's not elegant >>>> because >>>> > it wasted on computing resource which I might need in the future. >>>> Eventually >>>> > I managed to find a mathematical model to implement a good scheduler - >>>> yes! >>>> > math to the rescue. >>>> > >>>> > Still not buying on the importance of math? Consider yourself doing >>>> > programming and need to choose a data structure. Without good math >>>> > understanding how can you decide which data structure would be best on >>>> a >>>> > given program? Want to analyse your newly and cool algorithm? Who you >>>> gonna >>>> > call? Math, of course. Even when you code bussiness app, your business >>>> logic >>>> > is basically a representation of mathematical model. >>>> > >>>> > Not to discourage new programmer, you can still code with knowing math >>>> in >>>> > depth. But, IMHO as you progress into a more competent programmer you >>>> better >>>> > catch up with math again. It certainly helps. Math has helped me, I'm >>>> sure >>>> > it's useful to others too. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel >>>> > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> We really need math in CS. They way Computer engineers and software >>>> >> developers think are like mathematician. All are numbers. >>>> >> >>>> >> We codes in 1 and 0. if then else. all can be calculate and formula >>>> >> can be created. >>>> >> >>>> >> and one thing. >>>> >> >>>> >> Computer programming is an art :) >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, sweemeng ng <swees...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> > http://ocirs.com/2011/03/11/computer-science-education-and-math/ >>>> >> > based on this article. Actually I kinda agree with the author. 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