Dear Tova, ´My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation" when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that you know, and to look for what is right".´
I've been more of an observer than a participant on this list, but I very much wanted to thank you for your last posting. What a wise daughter you have. Thank you for your post and this quote from her, it has moved me deeply and I hope it is okay if I quote her sometimes when I feel in myself that I am too sure in this very complex and unsure world. Sincerely, Doris Gottlieb -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]Namens Averbuch Verzonden: 09 05 2002 1:21 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: Re: Word from a friend dearest arthur, my friend I read your posts for about two years and I think of you as a very wise, brave and honest thinker and human being. from this place I would like to talk to you . You wrote <. After all, Sharon and Bush are men of faith, aren't they? Aren't they?> don't you have any domestic "bad guys" ? I envy countries that do not have bad guys and that are spacious enough to give enough room to all the conflicts they carry and produce , this is why I came back with my family from 2 years in the US with the decision to open space in Israel, this "holly(and holey...) to all land". you also wrote: <Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in Jenin or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or not? A genocide or not? > If you are interested in answers from people who live here you could turn to Avner Haramati or to me , we would personally know at least few people who were there as soldiers and commanders and other sources, secondary and direct. Or maybe we can not be an accountable witness? I can also give you the Email adress of this Palestinian freind of Harrison and Avner and myself, if that is what you wish. My personal opinion was, and still is, that this type of material doesn't belong to the list because it will close the space. I am sending this open letter to you in an attempt to reopen a part that I felt was closing on me and I hope it is acceptable. As a way of bringing this letter to a close I would like to share two thing from last few days in my personal, private life : 1/ Yesterday, two streets away from were I live there was a suicide bombing in a snooker club. 15 civilians, unarmed, unprotected, half of them 55 years old and above, were murdered. 50 wounded,12 of them sevirly. It could have been me, or you. Is that a "massacre or not"? 2/ Sometimes I envy people who live in situations in which there is right and wrong in a clear cut way. I don't believe I do. My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation" when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that you know, and to look for what is right". that made my heart move. you and this list are very dear to me with love, and respect Tova Israel [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: Artur Ferreira da Silva <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:20 AM Subject: Re: Word from a friend > At 08:17 06-05-2002 -0400, you wrote: > > >I resigned today from my new three month old job in Ramallah due to the > >humiliation I go through every day at the checkpoint between Ramallah and > >Jerusalem. I have to find one now in Jerusalem where at least I know I'll > >come back home safe and sane." > > Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in Jenin > or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or not? A > genocide or not? What are the UN and USA government waiting to investigate? > > If Sharon will be put to the court of the International Penal Tribunal, who > will seat side by side with him as accomplices? All of us? > > Regards > > Artur > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
