Thank you Doris. I have consulted my daughter and this is her answer to you:
Dear Doris, I am very glad and touched that my words touched you and I would be honored if you deicide to use them at any time. Sincerely, Shira Averbcuh ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris Gottlieb <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:59 AM Subject: Re: Word from a friend > Dear Tova, > > ´My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep > reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme > opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how > people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation" > when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in > this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that > you know, and to look for what is right".´ > > I've been more of an observer than a participant on this list, but I very > much wanted to thank you for your last posting. > What a wise daughter you have. Thank you for your post and this quote from > her, it has moved me deeply and I hope it is okay if I quote her sometimes > when I feel in myself that I am too sure in this very complex and unsure > world. > > Sincerely, > > Doris Gottlieb > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: OSLIST [mailto:[email protected]]Namens Averbuch > Verzonden: 09 05 2002 1:21 > Aan: [email protected] > Onderwerp: Re: Word from a friend > > dearest arthur, my friend > > I read your posts for about two years and I think of you as a very wise, > brave and honest thinker and human being. > from this place I would like to talk to you . You wrote > > <. After all, Sharon and Bush are men of faith, aren't they? Aren't they?> > > don't you have any domestic "bad guys" ? I envy countries that do not have > bad guys and that are spacious enough to give enough room to all the > conflicts they carry and produce , this is why I came back with my family > from 2 years in the US with the decision to open space in Israel, this > "holly(and holey...) to all land". > > you also wrote: > <Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in Jenin > or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or not? A > genocide or not? > > > If you are interested in answers from people who live here you could > turn to Avner Haramati or to me , we would personally know at least few > people who were there as soldiers and commanders and other sources, > secondary and direct. Or maybe we can not be an accountable witness? I can > also give you the Email adress of this Palestinian freind of Harrison and > Avner and myself, if that is what you wish. > My personal opinion was, and still is, that this type of material doesn't > belong to the list because it will close the space. I am sending this open > letter to you in an attempt to reopen a part that I felt was closing on me > and I hope it is acceptable. > > As a way of bringing this letter to a close I would like to share two > thing from last few days in my personal, private life : > 1/ Yesterday, two streets away from were I live there was a suicide > bombing in a snooker club. 15 civilians, unarmed, unprotected, half of them > 55 years old and above, were murdered. 50 wounded,12 of them sevirly. It > could have been me, or you. Is that a "massacre or not"? > > 2/ Sometimes I envy people who live in situations in which there is > right and wrong in a clear cut way. I don't believe I do. > My 14 year old daughter, Shira, had spoken to me few days ago with deep > reflection in her voice ( after arguing with kids her age who hold extreme > opinions) :"you know, Imma (Mommy' in Hebrew), I do not understand how > people can be extreemly leftist or exrteemly rightist in this situation" > when I questioned 'why' she answered: " because the only sane position in > this mass, were every one is right and does wrong, in not to be sure that > you know, and to look for what is right". > that made my heart move. > > you and this list are very dear to me > with love, and respect > Tova > Israel > [email protected] > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Artur Ferreira da Silva <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 2:20 AM > Subject: Re: Word from a friend > > > > At 08:17 06-05-2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >I resigned today from my new three month old job in Ramallah due to the > > >humiliation I go through every day at the checkpoint between Ramallah and > > >Jerusalem. I have to find one now in Jerusalem where at least I know I'll > > >come back home safe and sane." > > > > Can you ask to your Palestinian friend, Harrison, if she has been in Jenin > > or know of reports from people that went there? Was it a massacre or not? > A > > genocide or not? What are the UN and USA government waiting to > investigate? > > > > If Sharon will be put to the court of the International Penal Tribunal, > who > > will seat side by side with him as accomplices? All of us? > > > > Regards > > > > Artur > > > > * > > * > > ========================================================== > > [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > > view the archives of [email protected], > > Visit: > > > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > * > * > ========================================================== > [email protected] > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of [email protected], > Visit: > > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html * * ========================================================== [email protected] ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of [email protected], Visit: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
