"This is also a challenge for me.....do the (my) right thing ....only for > (my) responsibilities > and not for "my ego" or not for (my) physical/psychological needs."
Here is a note for myself, I have just realized that I am responsible also for "my" physical and psychological needs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Funda Oral" <fundao...@superonline.com> To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: Re: OS and ethics > "Seeing us (os-folks) as doing something esp. valuable and deciding who to > give it to and who not to I see a big danger in that thought. Even the idea > of 'helping others to transform' includes the own judgment that the state > they are in now is not okay and they should change. And it seems to include > seeing oneself on a 'higher' level. And that is something to be very careful > about, too." > > Dear Marei, > > This is also a challenge for me.....do the (my) right thing ....only for > (my) responsibilities > and not for "my ego" or not for (my) physical/psychological needs. > > Still I must act, talk and live > > Sometimes it is very dangerous also to say "us (os-folks)" or "me" or > "my"....but we also have to say that with responsibility > because we exist somehow. > > And we shape the world with choices and decisions we make or we don't make. > > And when it's the right time I guess it is also ok "to be proud of > something", "to share a success" of course without taking > others'space > > Anyway, it is hard to explain but I just wanted to say; > > yes to..."being sensual" but without being afraid of living, experiencing, > playing your role openely, by being yourself as Harrison mentioned > somewhere, > > finding and defining "your" "my" "our" space again and again > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marei Kiele" <mareiki...@web.de> > To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 8:10 AM > Subject: Re: OS and ethics > > > > Hi folks, this is strange: > > > > I have been reading all these mails on 'os and ethics' today catching up > on this list again. And with every mail I became more astonished because the > first sentence that came to my mind has not yet been written. Okay, now I > do: > > > > "Whoever comes is the right people." > > > > Is that not the first principle? > > > > To me it is my job as a facilitator to make clear what my work / what open > space is about. Like inviting others to my session. And then: Be prepared to > be surprised - and open up to who comes. I thought open space is about > letting go all these "should have's, could have's and would have's" and > dealing with what is happening. Not only in an OST-meeting but in daily life > as well. And I deeply trust that - knowing what it is about - whoever wants > to do an open space is the right people. > > > > Can I imagine a group of people who's main interest is taking away others > space wanting to do their work in open space (and is that not somehow what > all the given "bad" examples are about?). At the moment: No, I can't. But if > this happened - can I imagine how I would respond to such a request? At this > moment: No I can't. Because I am NOT in that situation NOW. > > > > I am dealing with my permanent daily decisions and the 'ethics' they are > based upon. To develop my consciousness as Funda pointed out. And the more I > am in contact with that the more I can trust myself to do whatever feels > right at a given moment in the future in whatever situation I may be part > of. And then - being asked (= when it starts) - it will be the right time to > decide. > > > > I feel a bit like a lawyer in her pleading fighting for the freedom of my > client: open space. I admit I am self-nominated. > > > > Marei > > > > > > Part II: > > > > I wrote the first part of this mail yesterday sitting in a park in Berlin > with my laptop and could not sent it immediately. On my way back by bike I > wondered why I had gotten so emotional and to be true even somehow agressive > (this is what I then realized). And as my getting agressive always has to do > with the feeling of not enough space I asked myself "Why did I have the > feeling my space was shrinking?" Here is my answer: > > > > In this discussion about 'ethics' I smelt some odour of moral superiority > (and as you can guess I am sensual to that smell because I know it from > myself). May only be my nose but I did and this is what I reacted to. Seeing > us (os-folks) as doing something esp. valuable and deciding who to give it > to and who not to - I see a big danger in that thought. Even the idea of > 'helping others to transform' includes the own judgment that the state they > are in now is not okay and they should change. And it seems to include > seeing oneself on a 'higher' level. And that is something to be very careful > about, too. > > > > That is all for the moment. 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