Pat, I liked very much what you wrote
" If it is right for the individual it is right for the group. " This is such an important sentence meaning also "what isn't right for individual isn't right for the group. what is right for the group is right for the individual" If we can understand that, we shouldn't be so confused, because individual needs and group needs are same, they are in line with each other. Funda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Black" <patbl...@paulbunyan.net> To: <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: Re: OSLIST Digest - 12 Mar 2005 to 13 Mar 2005 (#2005-71) > I don't have any experience working in a corporate environment but have more > than thirty years of experience doing community organizing and grass roots > political organizing. I am not sure my experience can be transfered to a > corporate setting but here goes. I have found when people come together as > a group for whatever passion, they carry with them baggage from past > encounters, past experiences. I find that the baggage profoundly affects > their ability to trust themselves and therefore, others in the group. For > me the brilliance of Open Space is that it provides a very simply structure > for people to use so they can just operate in trust with themselves. The > structure directs them to look inward, measure their own response to the > experience and act accordingly. Simple guidelines allow individuals to know > what is right for them. If it is right for the individual it is right for > the group. People trust themselves and can then operate in trust. > Pat Black > > > Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:35:21 -0500 > From: Harrison Owen <hho...@comcast.net> > Subject: Principles, Process, and People > > What is becoming clearer to me as this conversation moves along is that = > my > initial discomfort with the "Trust the Process" frame of mind has = > nothing to > do with either the process (whatever that process might be) or the > principles which under lie it. Rather it is my concern that we have = > placed > our faith in arbitrary abstractions at the expense of some very concrete > realities - The People. In a word, process and principles become = > primary, > and the people are left in second place.=20 > > * > * > ========================================================== > osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu > ------------------------------ > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, > view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: > http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html > > To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: > http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * ========================================================== osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
