Thanks, everyone.
And Michael, this is exactly what i'd hope to accomplish:
> to give people a way to start thinking and imagining who will be there.
and without trying to shape the event in advance... a challenge.
I don't know if I'll use a wiki in future - I guess it depends on many
factors, as have been touched upon in this thread. But this input has
been helpful!
Have a good week, folks!
deb
PS: more input welcome, I don't want to shut down the thread :-)
Michael Herman wrote:
what i usually tell clients is that an OS meeting is a fantastic
opportunity. once the whole group is in the room, everyone can
realize this immediately. now things that were previously unthinkable
are suddenly not only thinkable, but actionable. so the opportunity
is very clear as soon as we get everyone in teh room... and until
then, it's hard to imagine what issues could be raised, because most
folks won't appreciate or imagine just how much energy and attention
will be available in the room. so i mostly encourage not posting
topics. if they're wiki people, sometimes what we've done is post
answers to "why i'm coming", mostly to give people a way to start
thinking and imagining who will be there.
mh
On 1/1/07, *Harrison Owen* <hho...@verizon.net
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For me the real issue is -- when is space open, and what sort of
space? I have seen organizations that use wiki-type format all the
time, and so when they do an OST, it is just an extension, but in
a different format. I think it is radically different if the wiki
stuff takes on the life and function of "planning" the meeting."
At that point it seems to me that it becomes quite
counterproductive, and actually closes space before it ever truly
opens. In the worst case scenario, people get stuck with the
agenda they posted (on wiki or whatever) simply because they
posted it. Hoisted on their own petard so to speak. The old
argument that pre-planning the agenda insures that no issue is
lost, and further that thinking about the issues before arrival
raises quality is a dog the won't hunt, I think. Sounds very
logical, but I have never seen a shred of evidence that it was
valid. Indeed quite the opposite. Pre-planned agendas insure
irrelevance – yesterday's news! Worse than that, it is boring.
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On the other hand, I've experienced this phenomenon as well, and
the vast majority of attendees won't have seen the pre-announced
topics, nor remember the ones they read, so the self-organization
and chaos of the opening is preserved AND those that are very
interested in what a person says about herself, can make sure to
find and meet that person. Again, this is self-organization. We
wouldn't want to forbid pre-posting of topics, would we? That
seems contrary to our role as facilitators.
peace,
ted
On 1/1/07, *Kerry* < k...@napuk.demon.co.uk
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Hi
I, for one, do not feel it is a good idea to post issues before an
event. If this is done, it will lead people to form responses in
advance and defend them during discussions in breakout groups, which
will leave people less open to hearing new views.
It also diminishes the chaos at the beginning of events when issues
start tumbling out and people start to get excited and decide where
they want to work .
All the very best in 2007! May your space continue to open.
Cheers
Kerry
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