"..... now about those New Year's Resolutions.
Have a good one!........"
here is one resolution :
IMPROVISATIONS ONLY!
funda
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From: Phelim McDermott
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: using a wiki to post OS topics before Opening the Space]
What I find interesting about the dynamic of preposting is that it starts to
limit my imagination about what the event is going to be like and then
consequently whether i will come or not.
"Oh it's them/me going on about that issue again! etc..
If I don't know what the issues are going to be they are all bubbling away in
my mind and the event is as exciting or as boring as MY imagination makes it
and they are My dreams and demons... As soon as the issues are stated then it
easy for me to become separate from that process. For me it's as pointless or
as uninspiring as trying to imagine whether an improvised gig is going to be
fun or not.. or for that matter trying to plan for that by thinking of some
funny jokes beforehand..!
..... now about those New Year's Resolutions.
Have a good one!
Phelim
On 2 Jan 2007, at 06:13, Michael Herman wrote:
what i usually tell clients is that an OS meeting is a fantastic
opportunity. once the whole group is in the room, everyone can realize this
immediately. now things that were previously unthinkable are suddenly not only
thinkable, but actionable. so the opportunity is very clear as soon as we get
everyone in teh room... and until then, it's hard to imagine what issues could
be raised, because most folks won't appreciate or imagine just how much energy
and attention will be available in the room. so i mostly encourage not posting
topics. if they're wiki people, sometimes what we've done is post answers to
"why i'm coming", mostly to give people a way to start thinking and imagining
who will be there.
mh
On 1/1/07, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> wrote:
For me the real issue is -- when is space open, and what sort of space? I
have seen organizations that use wiki-type format all the time, and so when
they do an OST, it is just an extension, but in a different format. I think it
is radically different if the wiki stuff takes on the life and function of
"planning" the meeting." At that point it seems to me that it becomes quite
counterproductive, and actually closes space before it ever truly opens. In the
worst case scenario, people get stuck with the agenda they posted (on wiki or
whatever) simply because they posted it. Hoisted on their own petard so to
speak. The old argument that pre-planning the agenda insures that no issue is
lost, and further that thinking about the issues before arrival raises quality
is a dog the won't hunt, I think. Sounds very logical, but I have never seen a
shred of evidence that it was valid. Indeed quite the opposite. Pre-planned
agendas insure irrelevance – yesterday's news! Worse than that, it is boring.
Harrison
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Ernst
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:14 PM
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On the other hand, I've experienced this phenomenon as well, and the vast
majority of attendees won't have seen the pre-announced topics, nor remember
the ones they read, so the self-organization and chaos of the opening is
preserved AND those that are very interested in what a person says about
herself, can make sure to find and meet that person. Again, this is
self-organization. We wouldn't want to forbid pre-posting of topics, would we?
That seems contrary to our role as facilitators.
peace,
ted
On 1/1/07, Kerry < k...@napuk.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Hi
I, for one, do not feel it is a good idea to post issues before an
event. If this is done, it will lead people to form responses in
advance and defend them during discussions in breakout groups, which
will leave people less open to hearing new views.
It also diminishes the chaos at the beginning of events when issues
start tumbling out and people start to get excited and decide where
they want to work .
All the very best in 2007! May your space continue to open.
Cheers
Kerry
Edinburgh
www.openfutures.com
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