Eledr
Interestingly, this also resonates with another line of research I am pursuing.
Traditionally
management (as well as meetings) was seen using a mechanistic paradigm - plan,
design, implement and control.
But when we analyze
what really happens, especially in long living companies, it is much more
organic, self-organizing and emergent. Arie de Geus that studied that in
"The Living Company" also uses de gardening metaphor. And, if one is
interested in long-living companies and communities, a major concern is to live
in a world that can sustain life for a long period.
So, in what
concerns meetings, organizations and the world at large, we need different
metaphors.
I am working now in a possibility of replacing the mechanistic world view by
one that is inspired in traditional agriculture.
The leader, not
only as gardener, but as an "organic farmer".
There is still
design, but not to implement and control; on the contrary, it is to design
(architect) for the emergence of life and self-organization.
Maybe this link
can interest you:
http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/20111101/frontiers-of-design-science
Regards
Artur
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Yesterday I dropped on this interesting piece:
http://playingwell.org/2012/04/17/leader-as-gardener/
Could "gardener" be another term for facilitator?
As Deidre Combs remarks from the article...
* “Gardeners, like entrepreneurs are obsessed with latent potential –
and can be known to be pathologically optimistic.”
* “In essence, the gardener’s work is a life of care.”
* “Showing up in person, shovel – and humility in hand is essential.”
* “The garden has taught me about patience and persistence and the
ethical principles of generosity and reciprocity…For the gardener,
composting is a transformative act – whereby last season’s clippings (or
failures) can become next year’s source of vigor.”Best wishes!
Eleder
2012/2/28 Frauke Godat <frauke.go...@gmail.com>
For the case study, see the second document in this blog post. Frauke
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>Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM
>Subject: Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to Fish /
>A Note to My Friends
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>
>Another step in the evolution: hosting and the Art of Hosting (where Open
>Space is one of the 4 core methods): http://artofhosting.ning.com/ and
>http://www.artofhosting.org
>
>
>Also, attached an overview about the Art of Hosting as a case study that I
>have written.
>
>
>Best,
>Frauke
>
>
>
>On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> wrote:
>
>Artur and all,
>>
>>
>>"Designing/creating a context for emergence" and then follow the principle of
>>close observation, minimal intervention and non-control. This reminds me
>>again of the permaculture-approach in its factual and its metaphorical sense.
>>And I like it
>>
>>
>>And not to forget the "1% of situations" side-principle
>>where strong interventions might be useful
>>is a kind of "minority protection" thinking,
>>good
>>for not becoming dogmatic and rigid,
>>but still staying clear of the interventionitis disease
>>
>>
>>Bernd
>>
>>
>>On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Artur Silva wrote:
>>
>>Hi, Agustin:
>>>
>>>I don't know if the word "contexting" exists in English, but I
agree that "creating the right context" is crucial.
>>>
>>>In what concerns formal education and training, the orthodoxy is still
based in the "impart of knowledge" and, in that model, the most important
is to create "contents" or, as they often say, "knowledge
objects". On the contrary, IMO what is important is to create the right
contexts for learning to emerge. (So we may talk about "designing” only in
the sense of “designing for emergence”).
>>>
>>>The same is true about facilitation. With the bulletin board, the market
place, the law of two feet, etc., what OST does is to create a rich "context"
that allows for multiple interpersonal contacts, cross pollination and the
emergence of the new.
>>>
>>>Facilitation methods where the facilitator designs and intervenes a lot and
controls everything (or so he believes) do the contrary of that.
>>>
>>>Ok, I agree that probably in 1% of the cases that can be useful, but not in
the majority of the cases I have seen.
>>>
>>>Artur
>>>
>>>PS: talking about languages, may I remind you all that in Portuguese my
name is written as above, and is not "Arthur".
Indeed, if you want to know the correct pronunciation it is more like (in
English) "Urtoor"; very different from "Arthur" ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>-------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>
>>>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:36 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to Fish
>>>/ A Note to My Friends
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Bernd,
>>>
>>>
>>>Maybe “contexting”
could be an usefull word in your quest. What I mean for "contexting" is to
create
the appropriate context that allows the participants to make distinctions that
develop
capacity “to fish”. In other words, a
facilitator does not teach to fish, a facilitator creates (facilitates,
generates) the conditions that allows
participants to make sense of "fishing", to realize that they can “fish” and
to find
the best way to "fish" for them.
>>>
>>>
>>>What do you
think about "capacity developers"?
>>>
>>>
>>>Agustin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at>
>>>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:06 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to Fish
>>>/ A Note to My Friends
>>>
>>>
>>>Artur
>>>
>>>
>>>As I said, there is probably no super word fully integrating all aspects we
>>>want and excluding what we do NOT want to say,
>>>but yes, your three examples show that there might be useful words to be
>>>used in this or that occasion.
>>>
>>>I try to get a feeling for the connotation-environment of each of these
>>>three words (within the limits of a non-english-native speaker)....
>>>
>>>
>>>nurturing still having the connotation of giving (and the related asymmetry,
>>>non-mutuality),
>>>inviting also not having enough of the intended range of meanings for me
>>>As a perma-culturist I immediately jumped on "cultivating". Especially since
>>>I have not yet used it in this sense. But it also has its unwanted
>>>connotations of course. e.g. "beeing non-cultivated" is a distinction that
>>>may be used/perceived as pejorative/as a part of a power-game
>>>
>>>
>>>So thank you all, who contributed to this discussion until now: finding more
>>>words that may be appropriate under specific conditions is what I could
>>>realistically expect. And I got it
>>>
>>>
>>>Bernd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Artur Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>Nurturing (from Lisa)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Inviting (from Suzanne)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Cultivating (in a sense similar to "cultivating the land")?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Artur
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at>
>>>>To: OSLIST New Adress <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>>Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:53 AM
>>>>Subject: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to Fish /
>>>>A Note to My Friends
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The last years I was again and again discussing adequate wording of our
>>>>"interventions" as consultants, facilitators (in German: ModeratorInnen,
>>>>BegleiterInnen), trainers...
>>>>With myself and others.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There was the classical "Change Management" (Consultancy) which we
>>>>substituted by Change Facilitators, mainly because it had become evident,
>>>>that you can not "manage" change (at least not in the classical sense of
>>>>management, which has (the possibility) of control at its core.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Of course "facilitate" has a connotation of "making things easy" which is
>>>>not necessarily what I understand by facilitating. Let me go back to the
>>>>teacherlearner example: sometimes there was more learning happening when I
>>>>did not make things easier, sometimes I was building barriers for my
>>>>students.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For me "facilitating" (in contrast to "helping") has a lot to do with
>>>>systemic perception/action: finding a good setting, trying to find ways of
>>>>improving the conditions of learning, indirect interventions but also
>>>>breaking down the walls between classical "training/learning" and "(group
>>>>work) facilitation" by contributing to learning whilst problem-solving or,
>>>>more positively, whilst "solution inquiring", with a longer term
>>>>perspective of "capacity building" (in its complex dynamics between
>>>>persons/groups/organizations/environment alias micro/makro).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In that sense I could use the word "facilitation" to make clear that I was
>>>>not speaking of old approaches and that we should not go back from a
>>>>systematic systemic perspective. This also gave me a good feeling of
>>>>beeing "progressive", although or because it was clear that I had squeezed
>>>>in a lot into this 'innocent word'
>>>>And the term 'facilitation' made quite some carreer (especially outside of
>>>>the english-speaking world as a 'foreign word'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But maybe it is time to look for a better word in the sense of the aspects
>>>>that are emerging during this "Fishing Discussion".
>>>>I can understand why you avoided the word 'to facilitate' but a wording
>>>>like 'helping to learn' does not seem to be a step forward, to the
>>>>contrary. Both wordings evidently need a lot of explanation about "in the
>>>>sense of...." And for me this is an indicator that we should perhaps look
>>>>out for another wording, ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That includes (or is able to include) what I have uttered in my previous
>>>>postings to that thread, and much of what others have contributed here,
>>>>especially that term should be able to include also "Learning the art of
>>>>silence seems to be much more rewarding for both for there's no Godot with
>>>>fish in hands." (Stanley Park) and also "hat the facilitator should not be
>>>>the 'catalyst' or 'interventionist' but more the 'nutritionist'" and "our
>>>>roles before the event, during and afterwards" and the role of "'conscious
>>>>non-interventionist'" (Lisa Heft), the
>>>>empowerment/dis-empowerment-contradiction and the 'sequence ... Fish
>>>>Distributors, Fishing Teachers, and then “Gone fish ‘in” – looking for
>>>>other fish to fry'(HO), not forgetting that we have to care that 'nobody
>>>>pollutes the environment in the meantime and that there is still fish to
>>>>fish.... (Joanne)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>and - whilst again using such heavy loaded wording - never forgetting that
>>>>the base self-organization in its non-logic/Yin-Yang/dialectical movements,
>>>>the last term allowing us, to never reduce ourselves to the either/or
>>>>thinking (so, eg. depending on the context to also be catalyst,
>>>>interventionist and nutritionist and e.g. also understanding the sequence
>>>>Fish Distributor, Fishing Teachers, ... Fishing-Zen (Diane G.)
>>>>masters/students.... not necessarily as a step-after-step-sequence but
>>>>consisting of aspects to phase in, be 'dominant' phase out, the 'sequence'
>>>>beeing parallel and interdependent processes like as 'overlapping threads'
>>>>of changing intensity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, reading over my own text once again, I get the impression, that it is
>>>>not possible to find such a Superword, but playing around, looking out for
>>>>a new and better word might be fun. In fact that is, what we are
>>>>implicitely ALSO doing here all the time right now in this list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hmm. maybe we have to change the context.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I do not know. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Bernd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>P.S. regarding the "nutricionist" role: Two year ago I experimented with
>>>>that in a non-metaphorical sense: to contribute a discussion process of
>>>>adequate change facilitation approaches in our Change Facilitation s.r.o.
>>>>company I invited Rik Berbé (one of the other members of our company
>>>>management team) to come to my home in Vienna/Austria for a two day
>>>>workshop. Instead of preparing contents, methods, program etc. I prepared
>>>>food and drinks, plenty of choices, healthy, not too heavy, .... (well the
>>>>kind of snacks you would always like to have in a perfect OST event
>>>>environment) and during our 2-person workshop I concentrated on two roles
>>>>(participant and barman). We had a wonderful workshop and Rik who was at
>>>>the beginning very amazed about such an approach agreed, that caring for
>>>>the best possible environment in the sense of beeing a 'nutricionist' was a
>>>>very useful role aspect I had contributed.
>>>>Not only ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Artur Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, Bernardo, you are right. Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to
>>>>fish and also help learning how to learn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to
>>>>>facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned -
>>>>>many people think (and do) "facilitate too much", disempowering the other
>>>>>and making more difficult for him to learn by himself.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And your story in Mozambique (Beira) is marvelous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Abraço
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Artur
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>________________________________
>>>>> From: Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at>
>>>>>To: Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology
>>>>>email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:43 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes Artur,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>based on my own life and working experience, meanwhile most of it in
>>>>>Ex-colonized countries, our job is, to HELP (I would meanwhile formulate
>>>>>it in a more systemic-adequate way: FACILITATE) to learn, to learn how to
>>>>>learn (as a way of being) and - though inicially accepting the
>>>>>Teacher-Student "Übertragung" (S. Freud, that means also: including the
>>>>>Gegen-Übertragung)- learn how to disappear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Only one thing. Let us not be put into a perception and thinking limiting
>>>>>TRANCE by strictly following logic thinking. That means there are times,
>>>>>when the logical either/or is simply not the best solution or even not
>>>>>human. So there may be cases where we give the fish AND teach to fish. Or
>>>>>give the fish under conditions that fishing is learned.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I still remember the blind beggars in Beira, who got only money from me if
>>>>>they accepted to go to the training center for blind people and look if
>>>>>they would not be interested to be trained for a job there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bernardo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Artur Silva wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Amen for almost everything! And thank you, Harrison, for reminding us of
all this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(...)
>>>>>
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