Silent (or Invisible) Liberator from our context... maybe? spark :-) 2012. 2. 28. 오후 7:46에 "Bernhard Weber" <web...@gmx.at>님이 작성:
> Hi Augustin > > > thank you. As you will see your idea of contexting triggered a lot in my > head and I will now just follow this stream of images: > > Artur already mentioned it. Does a word like "contexting" exists in > English? > Maybe "contextualizing" which might have a meaning that is again slightly > different, not only the sound. Or does this also not exist. In German > language we use this word very much > (Kontextualisieren/De-Kontextualisieren/Re-Kontextualisieren, still not > exactly an everyday word) > > Yes, it certainly is useful in "my quest". > > This my quest changed meanwhile: I do not want to find "the superword" > that integrates everything we need and excludes everything we do not, but > what I like to continue is the (re-)exploring of meanings of the words that > should be in the "halo" of this not-existing word. Getting a collection of > (half-)synonyms. It is clear that this might not be of much relevance for > the practical aspects of OST but it certainly helps to sharpen my > understanding. > > "Capacity developer". Funny: there is this big "capacity development" word > which became bigger and bigger, if you apply it to a complex social context > of networks, multiple stakeholders etc. (and it is used as a fundamental > approach meanwhile by highly professional organizations in international > development contexts, like the german GIZ (Ex-GTZ) and others, and of > course also in OD, Change Facilitation etc. in the corporate world. It > became so big meanwhile, that I usually ask the people, why we do not > simply use the good old word "development" instead, because first > developping capacities and then applying them to develop a system is in > fact the old paradigm of separated step-by-step approaches and "How to > develop practical capacities without practicing them by applying them right > away..... > > But "developer" is very much on the fish giving side, isn't it? So I would > rather call, what you probably mean a "capacity development facilitator" > > And right, again and again during this discussion, I noticed, that > "facilitating" is still a great word, ok, it might be a bit on the side of > "helping" if you apply it to people, but if you facilitate change of a > system, it may also include "supporting this process" by not always "making > it easier for the people" (by fish-giving) but even by building up some > hurdles/obstacles or moving some of the existing hurdles or show > that/discuss if... approaching these existing hurdles from another angle or > at another speed might be useful, > (oh there are images from horse jumping coming in.) > > > And if we accept, that we can not really find a word that gives us a > definition, but can be happy to stay at a metaphoric level then Kerry Napuk > in his yestdays posting in one of the parallel threads in this group > contributed a strong image "SWIM WITH THE FISH". I like it especially > because recently I was together with my wife Patrizia amongst spinning > dolphins. Wow! What a dance, what a choreography, what complex beautiful > patterns, .... without a word, very much using the ocean as their open > space for creating something extraordinary by SWIMMING/BEEING/DANCING at > the boundary/interface between water and air (in lots of break-out groups > ;-) > > Swimming with the fish in the sense of swimming with the others in a > change process/development process is very much "beeing a temporary > companion" and allows everything between beeing a leader and beeing led by > others/the process, between acting and beeing and this is what the German > "Begleiter im Wandel" (= change facilitator) might also mean in its full > range. > > And very recently, Feb.20, we had the Hindu-festival Maha Siva-Rathri here > in Sri Lanka: The long night of Shiva, who dances his cosmic dance of > creation and destruction. > > So this is, where I have been carried by the meta-logue of this group. > "Change Dancer" > And we could even apply this as a metaphor for BEing Open Space > Facilitators if we accept what the Veda scriptures teach, that is, that > each of us is this dancing Siva. > > Bernd > > > > > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:06 PM, agusj wrote: > > Hi Bernd,**** > > Maybe “contexting” could be an usefull word in your quest. What I mean for > "contexting" is to create the appropriate context that allows the > participants to make distinctions that develop capacity “to fish”. In > other words, a facilitator does not teach to fish, a facilitator creates > (facilitates, generates) the conditions that allows participants to make > sense of "fishing", to realize that they can “fish” and to find the best > way to "fish" for them. **** > > What do you think about "capacity developers"? **** > > Agustin**** > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Artur > > As I said, there is probably no super word fully integrating all aspects > we want and excluding what we do NOT want to say, > but yes, your three examples show that there might be useful words to be > used in this or that occasion. > > I try to get a feeling for the connotation-environment of each of these > three words (within the limits of a non-english-native speaker).... > > nurturing still having the connotation of giving (and the related > asymmetry, non-mutuality), > inviting also not having enough of the intended range of meanings for me > As a perma-culturist I immediately jumped on "cultivating". Especially > since I have not yet used it in this sense. But it also has its unwanted > connotations of course. e.g. "beeing non-cultivated" is a distinction that > may be used/perceived as pejorative/as a part of a power-game > > So thank you all, who contributed to this discussion until now: finding > more words that may be appropriate under specific conditions is what I > could realistically expect. And I got it > > Bernd > > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Nurturing (from Lisa)? > > Inviting (from Suzanne)? > > Cultivating (in a sense similar to "cultivating the land")? > > Artur > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* OSLIST New Adress <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:53 AM > *Subject:* [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > > > Hi again > > The last years I was again and again discussing adequate wording of our > "interventions" as consultants, facilitators (in German: ModeratorInnen, > BegleiterInnen), trainers... > With myself and others. > > There was the classical "Change Management" (Consultancy) which we > substituted by Change Facilitators, mainly because it had become evident, > that you can not "manage" change (at least not in the classical sense of > management, which has (the possibility) of control at its core. > > Of course "facilitate" has a connotation of "making things easy" which is > not necessarily what I understand by facilitating. Let me go back to the > teacherlearner example: sometimes there was more learning happening when I > did not make things easier, sometimes I was building barriers for my > students. > > For me "facilitating" (in contrast to "helping") has a lot to do with > systemic perception/action: finding a good setting, trying to find ways of > improving the conditions of learning, indirect interventions but also > breaking down the walls between classical "training/learning" and "(group > work) facilitation" by contributing to learning whilst problem-solving or, > more positively, whilst "solution inquiring", with a longer term > perspective of "capacity building" (in its complex dynamics between > persons/groups/organizations/environment alias micro/makro). > > In that sense I could use the word "facilitation" to make clear that I was > not speaking of old approaches and that we should not go back from a > systematic systemic perspective. This also gave me a good feeling of > beeing "progressive", although or because it was clear that I had squeezed > in a lot into this 'innocent word' > And the term 'facilitation' made quite some carreer (especially outside of > the english-speaking world as a 'foreign word'. > > > But maybe it is time to look for a better word in the sense of the > aspects that are emerging during this "Fishing Discussion". > I can understand why you avoided the word 'to facilitate' but a wording > like 'helping to learn' does not seem to be a step forward, to the > contrary. Both wordings evidently need a lot of explanation about "in the > sense of...." And for me this is an indicator that we should perhaps look > out for another wording, .... > > That includes (or is able to include) what I have uttered in my previous > postings to that thread, and much of what others have contributed here, > especially that term should be able to include also "Learning the art of > silence seems to be much more rewarding for both for there's no Godot with > fish in hands." (Stanley Park) and also "hat the facilitator should not be > the 'catalyst' or 'interventionist' but more the 'nutritionist'" and "our > roles before the event, during and afterwards" and the role of "'conscious > non-interventionist'" (Lisa Heft), the > empowerment/dis-empowerment-contradiction and the 'sequence ... Fish > Distributors, Fishing Teachers, and then “Gone fish ‘in” – looking for > other fish to fry'(HO), not forgetting that we have to care that 'nobody > pollutes the environment in the meantime and that there is still fish to > fish.... (Joanne)... > > and - whilst again using such heavy loaded wording - never forgetting that > the base self-organization in its non-logic/Yin-Yang/dialectical movements, > the last term allowing us, to never reduce ourselves to the either/or > thinking (so, eg. depending on the context to also be catalyst, > interventionist and nutritionist and e.g. also understanding the sequence > Fish Distributor, Fishing Teachers, ... Fishing-Zen (Diane G.) > masters/students.... not necessarily as a step-after-step-sequence but > consisting of aspects to phase in, be 'dominant' phase out, the 'sequence' > beeing parallel and interdependent processes like as 'overlapping threads' > of changing intensity. > > Well, reading over my own text once again, I get the impression, that it > is not possible to find such a Superword, but playing around, looking out > for a new and better word might be fun. In fact that is, what we are > implicitely ALSO doing here all the time right now in this list. > > Hmm. maybe we have to change the context. > > I do not know. Any ideas? > > Bernd > > > P.S. regarding the "nutricionist" role: Two year ago I experimented with > that in a non-metaphorical sense: to contribute a discussion process of > adequate change facilitation approaches in our Change Facilitation s.r.o. > company I invited Rik Berbé (one of the other members of our company > management team) to come to my home in Vienna/Austria for a two day > workshop. Instead of preparing contents, methods, program etc. I prepared > food and drinks, plenty of choices, healthy, not too heavy, .... (well the > kind of snacks you would always like to have in a perfect OST event > environment) and during our 2-person workshop I concentrated on two roles > (participant and barman). We had a wonderful workshop and Rik who was at > the beginning very amazed about such an approach agreed, that caring for > the best possible environment in the sense of beeing a 'nutricionist' was a > very useful role aspect I had contributed. > Not only ;-) > > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Yes, Bernardo, you are right. Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to > fish and also help learning how to learn. > > You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to > facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned - > many people think (and do) "facilitate too much", disempowering the other > and making more difficult for him to learn by himself. > > And your story in Mozambique (Beira) is marvelous. > > Abraço > > Artur > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space > Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Yes Artur, > > based on my own life and working experience, meanwhile most of it in > Ex-colonized countries, our job is, to HELP (I would meanwhile formulate it > in a more systemic-adequate way: FACILITATE) to learn, to learn how to > learn (as a way of being) and - though inicially accepting the > Teacher-Student "Übertragung" (S. Freud, that means also: including the > Gegen-Übertragung)- learn how to disappear. > > Only one thing. Let us not be put into a perception and thinking limiting > TRANCE by strictly following logic thinking. That means there are times, > when the logical either/or is simply not the best solution or even not > human. So there may be cases where we give the fish AND teach to fish. Or > give the fish under conditions that fishing is learned. > > I still remember the blind beggars in Beira, who got only money from me if > they accepted to go to the training center for blind people and look if > they would not be interested to be trained for a job there. > > > Bernardo > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Amen for almost everything! And thank you, Harrison, for reminding us of > all this. > > (...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > >
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