Dear Artur! Carl Rogers used a agricultural metaphor when speaking about development of a personality and how people can be helped (counseling) (by creating a supportive environment). His biography includes raising in a family farm.
Be well, * A*r*n*o Narva mnt 25, 10120 Tallinn Eesti Vabariik 2012/4/19 Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com> > Eledr > > Interestingly, this also resonates with another line of research I am > pursuing.**** > > > **** > Traditionally management (as well as meetings) was seen using a > mechanistic paradigm - plan, design, implement and control.**** > > > **** > But when we analyze what really happens, especially in long living > companies, it is much more organic, self-organizing and emergent. Arie de > Geus that studied that in "The Living Company" also uses de gardening > metaphor. And, if one is interested in long-living companies and > communities, a major concern is to live in a world that can sustain life > for a long period.**** > > > **** > So, in what concerns meetings, organizations and the world at large, we > need different metaphors. I am working now in a possibility of replacing > the mechanistic world view by one that is inspired in traditional > agriculture.**** > > The leader, not only as gardener, but as an "organic farmer". **** > > > **** > There is still design, but not to implement and control; on the contrary, > it is to design (architect) for the emergence of life and self-organization. > **** > > > **** > Maybe this link can interest you: > http://www.metropolismag.com/pov/20111101/frontiers-of-design-science**** > > > **** > Regards **** > > > **** > Artur**** > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Eleder_BuM <eleder.aurtene...@gmail.com> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Fwd: A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach > Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Yesterday I dropped on this interesting piece: > http://playingwell.org/2012/04/17/leader-as-gardener/ > Could "gardener" be another term for facilitator? > As Deidre Combs remarks from the article... > > - “Gardeners, like entrepreneurs are obsessed with latent potential – > and can be known to be pathologically optimistic.” > - “In essence, the gardener’s work is a life of care.” > - “Showing up in person, shovel – and humility in hand is essential.” > - “The garden has taught me about patience and persistence and the > ethical principles of generosity and reciprocity…For the gardener, > composting is a transformative act – whereby last season’s clippings (or > failures) can become next year’s source of vigor.” > > Best wishes! > Eleder > > 2012/2/28 Frauke Godat <frauke.go...@gmail.com> > > For the case study, see the second document in this blog > post<http://aohberlin2011.posterous.com/wie-organisieren-sich-netzwerke-fur-gesellsch>. > Frauke > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Frauke Godat* <frauke.go...@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM > Subject: Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > > Another step in the evolution: hosting and the Art of Hosting (where Open > Space is one of the 4 core methods): http://artofhosting.ning.com/ and > http://www.artofhosting.org > > Also, attached an overview about the Art of Hosting as a case study that I > have written. > > Best, > Frauke > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> wrote: > > Artur and all, > > "Designing/creating a context for emergence" and then follow the principle > of close observation, minimal intervention and non-control. This reminds me > again of the permaculture-approach in its factual and its metaphorical > sense. And I like it > > And not to forget the "1% of situations" side-principle > where strong interventions might be useful > is a kind of "minority protection" thinking, > good > for not becoming dogmatic and rigid, > but still staying clear of the interventionitis disease > > Bernd > > On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Hi, Agustin:**** > ** ** > I don't know if the word "contexting" exists in English, but I agree that > "creating the right context" is crucial.**** > ** ** > In what concerns formal education and training, the orthodoxy is still > based in the "impart of knowledge" and, in that model, the most important > is to create "contents" or, as they often say, "knowledge objects". On the > contrary, IMO what is important is to create the right contexts for > learning to emerge. (So we may talk about "designing” only in the sense of > “designing for emergence”). **** > ** ** > The same is true about facilitation. With the bulletin board, the market > place, the law of two feet, etc., what OST does is to create a rich > "context" that allows for multiple interpersonal contacts, cross > pollination and the emergence of the new.**** > ** ** > Facilitation methods where the facilitator designs and intervenes a lot > and controls everything (or so he believes) do the contrary of that.**** > ** ** > Ok, I agree that probably in 1% of the cases that can be useful, but not > in the majority of the cases I have seen. **** > ** ** > Artur**** > ** ** > PS: talking about languages, may I remind you all that in Portuguese my > name is written as above, and *is not* "Arthur". Indeed, if you want to > know the correct pronunciation it is more like (in English) "Urtoor"; very > different from "Arthur" ;-)**** > > ------------------- > > ------------------------------ > *From:* agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 3:36 PM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Hi Bernd, > > Maybe “contexting” could be an usefull word in your quest. What I mean for > "contexting" is to create the appropriate context that allows the > participants to make distinctions that develop capacity “to fish”. In > other words, a facilitator does not teach to fish, a facilitator creates > (facilitates, generates) the conditions that allows participants to make > sense of "fishing", to realize that they can “fish” and to find the best > way to "fish" for them. > > What do you think about "capacity developers"? > > Agustin > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:06 PM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Artur > > As I said, there is probably no super word fully integrating all aspects > we want and excluding what we do NOT want to say, > but yes, your three examples show that there might be useful words to be > used in this or that occasion. > > I try to get a feeling for the connotation-environment of each of these > three words (within the limits of a non-english-native speaker).... > > nurturing still having the connotation of giving (and the related > asymmetry, non-mutuality), > inviting also not having enough of the intended range of meanings for me > As a perma-culturist I immediately jumped on "cultivating". Especially > since I have not yet used it in this sense. But it also has its unwanted > connotations of course. e.g. "beeing non-cultivated" is a distinction that > may be used/perceived as pejorative/as a part of a power-game > > So thank you all, who contributed to this discussion until now: finding > more words that may be appropriate under specific conditions is what I > could realistically expect. And I got it > > Bernd > > > On Feb 26, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Nurturing (from Lisa)? > > Inviting (from Suzanne)? > > Cultivating (in a sense similar to "cultivating the land")? > > Artur > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* OSLIST New Adress <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2012 6:53 AM > *Subject:* [OSList] A new term for 'facilitation'? was: Teach Them to > Fish / A Note to My Friends > > > Hi again > > The last years I was again and again discussing adequate wording of our > "interventions" as consultants, facilitators (in German: ModeratorInnen, > BegleiterInnen), trainers... > With myself and others. > > There was the classical "Change Management" (Consultancy) which we > substituted by Change Facilitators, mainly because it had become evident, > that you can not "manage" change (at least not in the classical sense of > management, which has (the possibility) of control at its core. > > Of course "facilitate" has a connotation of "making things easy" which is > not necessarily what I understand by facilitating. Let me go back to the > teacherlearner example: sometimes there was more learning happening when I > did not make things easier, sometimes I was building barriers for my > students. > > For me "facilitating" (in contrast to "helping") has a lot to do with > systemic perception/action: finding a good setting, trying to find ways of > improving the conditions of learning, indirect interventions but also > breaking down the walls between classical "training/learning" and "(group > work) facilitation" by contributing to learning whilst problem-solving or, > more positively, whilst "solution inquiring", with a longer term > perspective of "capacity building" (in its complex dynamics between > persons/groups/organizations/environment alias micro/makro). > > In that sense I could use the word "facilitation" to make clear that I was > not speaking of old approaches and that we should not go back from a > systematic systemic perspective. This also gave me a good feeling of > beeing "progressive", although or because it was clear that I had squeezed > in a lot into this 'innocent word' > And the term 'facilitation' made quite some carreer (especially outside of > the english-speaking world as a 'foreign word'. > > > But maybe it is time to look for a better word in the sense of the > aspects that are emerging during this "Fishing Discussion". > I can understand why you avoided the word 'to facilitate' but a wording > like 'helping to learn' does not seem to be a step forward, to the > contrary. Both wordings evidently need a lot of explanation about "in the > sense of...." And for me this is an indicator that we should perhaps look > out for another wording, .... > > That includes (or is able to include) what I have uttered in my previous > postings to that thread, and much of what others have contributed here, > especially that term should be able to include also "Learning the art of > silence seems to be much more rewarding for both for there's no Godot with > fish in hands." (Stanley Park) and also "hat the facilitator should not be > the 'catalyst' or 'interventionist' but more the 'nutritionist'" and "our > roles before the event, during and afterwards" and the role of "'conscious > non-interventionist'" (Lisa Heft), the > empowerment/dis-empowerment-contradiction and the 'sequence ... Fish > Distributors, Fishing Teachers, and then “Gone fish ‘in” – looking for > other fish to fry'(HO), not forgetting that we have to care that 'nobody > pollutes the environment in the meantime and that there is still fish to > fish.... (Joanne)... > > and - whilst again using such heavy loaded wording - never forgetting that > the base self-organization in its non-logic/Yin-Yang/dialectical movements, > the last term allowing us, to never reduce ourselves to the either/or > thinking (so, eg. depending on the context to also be catalyst, > interventionist and nutritionist and e.g. also understanding the sequence > Fish Distributor, Fishing Teachers, ... Fishing-Zen (Diane G.) > masters/students.... not necessarily as a step-after-step-sequence but > consisting of aspects to phase in, be 'dominant' phase out, the 'sequence' > beeing parallel and interdependent processes like as 'overlapping threads' > of changing intensity. > > Well, reading over my own text once again, I get the impression, that it > is not possible to find such a Superword, but playing around, looking out > for a new and better word might be fun. In fact that is, what we are > implicitely ALSO doing here all the time right now in this list. > > Hmm. maybe we have to change the context. > > I do not know. Any ideas? > > Bernd > > > P.S. regarding the "nutricionist" role: Two year ago I experimented with > that in a non-metaphorical sense: to contribute a discussion process of > adequate change facilitation approaches in our Change Facilitation s.r.o. > company I invited Rik Berbé (one of the other members of our company > management team) to come to my home in Vienna/Austria for a two day > workshop. Instead of preparing contents, methods, program etc. I prepared > food and drinks, plenty of choices, healthy, not too heavy, .... (well the > kind of snacks you would always like to have in a perfect OST event > environment) and during our 2-person workshop I concentrated on two roles > (participant and barman). We had a wonderful workshop and Rik who was at > the beginning very amazed about such an approach agreed, that caring for > the best possible environment in the sense of beeing a 'nutricionist' was a > very useful role aspect I had contributed. > Not only ;-) > > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 11:46 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Yes, Bernardo, you are right. Sometimes one must give the fish, teach to > fish and also help learning how to learn. > > You are also right that this "to help to learnr" is indeed "to > facilitate". I avoided the term because quite often - as HO mentioned - > many people think (and do) "facilitate too much", disempowering the other > and making more difficult for him to learn by himself. > > And your story in Mozambique (Beira) is marvelous. > > Abraço > > Artur > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bernhard Weber <web...@gmx.at> > *To:* Artur Silva <arturfsi...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space > Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Teach Them to Fish / A Note to My Friends > > Yes Artur, > > based on my own life and working experience, meanwhile most of it in > Ex-colonized countries, our job is, to HELP (I would meanwhile formulate it > in a more systemic-adequate way: FACILITATE) to learn, to learn how to > learn (as a way of being) and - though inicially accepting the > Teacher-Student "Übertragung" (S. Freud, that means also: including the > Gegen-Übertragung)- learn how to disappear. > > Only one thing. Let us not be put into a perception and thinking limiting > TRANCE by strictly following logic thinking. That means there are times, > when the logical either/or is simply not the best solution or even not > human. So there may be cases where we give the fish AND teach to fish. Or > give the fish under conditions that fishing is learned. > > I still remember the blind beggars in Beira, who got only money from me if > they accepted to go to the training center for blind people and look if > they would not be interested to be trained for a job there. > > > Bernardo > > > On Feb 24, 2012, at 6:49 PM, Artur Silva wrote: > > Amen for almost everything! And thank you, Harrison, for reminding us of > all this. > > (...) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > > > > -- > Frauke Godat > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Offener ZukunftsLernraum in Berlin ab 6. 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