Dan,

There's a kind of 'vibe' around Open Space which might make it difficult for people working with the format to necessarily see some of it's nature, and I think this community is missing some gifts from your perspective because the elusive nature of the spirit of Open Space doesn't much care for boundaries, constraints, and prescriptions. My hope is we won't lose those gifts because of the wrapping.

I'd like to respect the poetry of Open Space, and I'm not in any way opposing the perspective being put forward by Harrison, Lisa and others. The word constrain according to dictionary.com includes in its definition words like "force", "compel", and "oblige". This is not in alignment with the word invitation, nor with the spirit of what we're trying to accomplish with Open Space.

But I'm drawn to your perspective of looking at Open Space as a game with simple 'rules' and I look forward to grasping this better. It seems part of a redefinition or clarification of power, authority, and respect that is happening in both commerce, government, and families. This is something I passionately care about, but it remains an open question and probably will remain one until I die. But I sense from conversations we had in Nashville at Agile 2013 that you have something for me and for this Open Space community in this area. I hope this email will help that happen.

Although Thomas Jefferson wrote "we hold these truths to be self-evident", that certainly did not imply that British rule at the time included awareness or acceptance of the "self-evident" truths espoused in that document. Self-evident does *not* mean obvious. The truths Thomas Jefferson wrote about could only be held within the imperfect container of his words after millennia of study and reflection.

And notice the word "hold" in "hold these truths". Thomas Jefferson and the other founders did attempt to hold and establish these truths into society with rules, laws, constraints and containers. One of the biggest things they were trying to constrain was the power and potential evil inherent in governance itself.

Yes, whether we like it or not, the universe is self-organizing. This might be a self-evident truth, but it certainly isn't obvious - especially to those who think they're running this planet with systems that seem on a bee line to multiple environmental and humanitarian disasters.

I'll leave with a question. How could seeing Open Space as a game help us better invite people to play with us in redefining our current organization structures to let in more Life and Spirit?

    Thanks,
    Harold



On 9/30/13 11:31 AM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
I request help and guidance. Will you help me understand the rule of the Open Space meeting format?

If the 1 law & the 4/5 principles are natural and self-evident, I am confused about the need to mention them whatsoever.

If the 1 law and the 4/5 principles are not natural and not self-evident, I am confused about how mentioning them is optional.

The 1 "law" (quotes) and "4/5 principles" (quotes again) are either self-evident, or they are not. I wonder which is the reality.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_law
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_rights





On 9/30/13 8:05 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

Dan -- I have to agree with Lisa. As said multiple times before, the 5 principles and the Law are descriptive and not prescriptive. Or at least that is the way they popped into my head: simple observations of what was transpiring, as opposed to directions concerning what should be taking place. I have always said "Principles" and "Law" with a smile, because if you really think about it, they are neither (principle or law). More like, "funny things that happen on the way to the future." There is an essential humor, sense of fun in Open Space -- and if we ever lose it, we begin to take things much too seriously LI call it High Play.

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Dan - I have taken the liberty of adjusting the title of this topic to more closely fit the changed content.

And: I look forward to hearing how others respond...

1/ I see the Law and Principles and *invitations* not as constraints.

2/ And not 'required' as in - some of us do not use the 5th Principle at all. However, the saying, inviting and simple explanation of these invitations help to create the structure (as there is a structure, just not the structure that a lot of people have experienced in meetings) / to create the container. What I mean by that is that I have observed that to not offer the invitation of the principles and law (even in a group of people who completely know and do Open Space) is not inviting presence and possibility in the same way. So different dynamics then occur.

And in saying that offering these invitations and explaining this process help to create the container, I mean a living, breathing, nutrient-rich container, perhaps similar to some containers like cellular walls, a bird's nest, a lake, a poem, or a wisp of vapor... which have some form within which there is flow.

3/ I notice that some super-good OST facilitators can use more words to explain things, and some use less. And the experience can be amazing. In my observation, it is not the amount of words, it is the complete true understanding of inviting Opening Circle and agenda co-creation (which include a brief explanation of principles and law and process), and getting / staying out of the way so the participants can do their own work, see their own patterns, feel their own co-leadership, and so on.

What do others think?


Lisa

On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Mezick <d...@newtechusa.net <mailto:d...@newtechusa.net>> wrote:



Lisa says:
"...

The other thing is that for any kind of facilitation, I would not name boundaries or constraints. It sets peoples' minds in the framework of boundaries and constraints - rather than opportunities and possibilities.

Like 'think outside the box' - you are still thinking...of the box! when / because someone says that. "

Dan says:
I notice that:
1/ the 1 Law and 5 Principles of OST are constraints-in-fact. Are they not? 2/ we are required to describe these as OST Facilitators; at least, according to the OST Guide. Right? 3/ the general idea for the Facilitator is, "the less said the better". No?

I think OST is a most wonderful game. http://newtechusa.net/agile/how-games-deliver-happiness-learning/

Dan



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