I lurk mostly but I love this OPen Space List and read it regularly. However, the e-dress associated with me with you is now about to be disconnected as it is loaded with spam and I need not have two e-dresses. Could Michael or whoever is responsible please change my e-dress to marksmcav...@gmail.com .
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Pierre Teilhard de Chardin On 2013-10-06, at 8:59 AM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Harold, > inviting folks is per se a grand idea. > What they are being invited to is a vast spectrum. > Who does the inviting, too. > As a facilitator I dont invite folks to an open space event, as a sponsor, > sure. > Often I talk about the nature of the invitation and the nature of open space > with the sponsor or the Planning Group as I see it in my limited ways. > When talking with the sponsor I also talk about Life and Spirit as stuff that > are essential to groups, organisations and systems, with an emphasis that > they are definitely present (otherwise the group, organisation or system > would be dead) and could do perhaps better with some loving tender care. > And I talk about selforganisation, reminding myself that selforganisation is > something I see all over, of which, however, I know nothing (a little bit > about preconditions) and probably never will. > > Looking at it that way, my question is > How could seeing Open Space as a game help me in my work as facilitator > (working with a sponsor) to expand time and space for selforganisation to > unfold in the gathering planned? (keeping in mind what people are gathering > for in open space and that it is a good idea to be prepared to be surprised). > > Have a sunny Sunday evening > mmp > > On 06.10.2013 16:39, Harold Shinsato wrote: >> Dan, >> >> There's a kind of 'vibe' around Open Space which might make it difficult >> for people working with the format to necessarily see some of it's >> nature, and I think this community is missing some gifts from your >> perspective because the elusive nature of the spirit of Open Space >> doesn't much care for boundaries, constraints, and prescriptions. My >> hope is we won't lose those gifts because of the wrapping. >> >> I'd like to respect the poetry of Open Space, and I'm not in any way >> opposing the perspective being put forward by Harrison, Lisa and others. >> The word constrain according to dictionary.com includes in its >> definition words like "force", "compel", and "oblige". This is not in >> alignment with the word invitation, nor with the spirit of what we're >> trying to accomplish with Open Space. >> >> But I'm drawn to your perspective of looking at Open Space as a game >> with simple 'rules' and I look forward to grasping this better. It seems >> part of a redefinition or clarification of power, authority, and respect >> that is happening in both commerce, government, and families. This is >> something I passionately care about, but it remains an open question and >> probably will remain one until I die. But I sense from conversations we >> had in Nashville at Agile 2013 that you have something for me and for >> this Open Space community in this area. I hope this email will help that >> happen. >> >> Although Thomas Jefferson wrote "we hold these truths to be >> self-evident", that certainly did not imply that British rule at the >> time included awareness or acceptance of the "self-evident" truths >> espoused in that document. Self-evident does *not* mean obvious. The >> truths Thomas Jefferson wrote about could only be held within the >> imperfect container of his words after millennia of study and reflection. >> >> And notice the word "hold" in "hold these truths". Thomas Jefferson and >> the other founders did attempt to hold and establish these truths into >> society with rules, laws, constraints and containers. One of the biggest >> things they were trying to constrain was the power and potential evil >> inherent in governance itself. >> >> Yes, whether we like it or not, the universe is self-organizing. This >> might be a self-evident truth, but it certainly isn't obvious - >> especially to those who think they're running this planet with systems >> that seem on a bee line to multiple environmental and humanitarian >> disasters. >> >> I'll leave with a question. How could seeing Open Space as a game help >> us better invite people to play with us in redefining our current >> organization structures to let in more Life and Spirit? >> >> Thanks, >> Harold > > > Michael M Pannwitz > Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany > ++49 – 30-772 8000 > > Come join us for the Third European Open Space Learning Exchange from > November 20 through 22, 2013 in > Utrecht, Netherlands > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
