Hello,
Continuing with my last post, I want to share some new reflections about the OS 
process. 
If we interpret the first day of a three-day OS event like the "death process" 
that organizations need in order to letting go the past, to open space for the 
emergent future possibilities, would it be better to dedicate less time to the 
"death process" in comparison with the time we devote for the "birth process"? 
I know that grief is important and needs time, but I think that it is more 
constructive to focus in the future that could emerge.

Assuming this, do you think that it would be a good idea reduce the first day 
to half day and shorten the time slots to 30 minutes, in order to accelerate 
the  "death process"? The first agenda would be established for this half day. 
With this, the group has almost the same number of conversations, although 
these are shorter. To close this first half day elegantly, you do it with a 
closing circle.  In this way, the group have one day and a half to the creative 
process and this phase would start  with an opening circle and a new agenda. 
Make sense?
Warm regards,
Agustin

 

     From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adri...@diazberrio.com>
 To: agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list 
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Cc: Suzanne Daigle <sdaig...@gmail.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"
   
Hi Agustin: I Like this book theory U I don,t think that I understand it very 
well but I am living mi self this process of letting go and letting come new 
things because I was in Montreal for seven years and now I live in Mexico again 
but in a new city called Queretaro. 
I will be facilitating an OS for the pschology students congress of the 
UCO_Mondragon university.
I am exited to do it.
 But yes every time explaining OS confronts me with this aspect that people 
need to let go to their old model before they accept to try this new one option.

I am also having the same difficulties with the other approach I use calle 
Groupe de codéveloppement profesionel based on experiential learning and group 
interaction. It is also based on the idea that a group has a collective 
intelligence that is bigger when we talk together.
I would like to share this method with people from this list. If someone wants 
to know more and to have a first experience I would like to offer a free on 
line session. I need minimum 3 people and maximum 5. It takes 2 hours. This 
method for me is very powerful and could be complementary with an OS event . 
Contact me if you want to know more!

Thank you for sharing this good ideas and experiences!
Adriana

2015-03-23 21:34 GMT-06:00 agusj via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:



Hello Suzanne and all,
"The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways 
of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error." Wonderful 
 and provocative thought. 
I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led by 
Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2 concepts that 
are in line with this conversation about death and birth. They are "letting go" 
and "letting come". You have to letting go the past in order to letting come 
the emergent future. I compare this "letting go" with the "death process" you 
are talking about, and the "letting come" with the "birth process" 
respectively.  I would dare say that these both "processes" are also present in 
OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3 three-day OS events and what I have 
observed is that the first day is for "catharsis", and is only after that, that 
the group can overcome the past and is ready to letting come the emergent 
future in the second day.  I think that this "letting come" is possible, 
because OS propitiates the conditions for presencing, that happens at the 
bottom of the U, and this is the point where you connect to your inner source 
of inspiration and will.
I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U 
Theory and OS. Agustin


      From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
 To: OSLIST <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:07 AM
 Subject: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"
   
Harrison and all,
I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the stirrings of 
self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the 12 organizations 
featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing Organizations. And as luck 
would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star (another Laloux company) was 
touring with me.  The other companies I visited were not at the same level but 
in their heart and actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction.  
Though truly for all, it is the journey and not the destination that 
self-organization represents.  I was in awe and truly could not get enough.  It 
reminded me of those best moments in my own work career when shared pride, 
purpose, collaboration, camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled 
over. Above all, I was struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing 
“extraordinary things”; leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and 
living their own space with others. In the joy of experiencing and reliving the 
intensity and vibrancy of what “work” can and should be like, I was struck and 
deeply saddened knowing how few organizations are operating this way.  How much 
pain and how much “settling and giving up” there still is in the world of work 
today.   I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant. And 
yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness, two 
realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be birthed.  There is 
much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of the “illusion of 
safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are now edging towards 
something that is exerting its pull, something new.  Much has been written 
about the industrial model under which most companies still operate.  A 
top-down hierarchy, command-control system with predictability and efficiency 
built in. The habits of this are embedded everywhere. Most of us know this 
operating system has been pushed to its limits and no longer serves. One can’t 
deny that much good came of it not the least of which we have been given more 
years in this wonderful life. Nor can one deny its excesses, which have caused 
much damage not the least of which to our human spirit on what matters most.  
The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways of 
doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error. 

Does it require that our organizations hit bottom?  Or perhaps in our souls, we 
know that we have already hit bottom and this will be enough to propel us 
forward.   Harrison says:  “The cure then would be to stop the wounding, at 
least until we could see how things might go. Of course, if the situation is 
really terminal, then by all means. Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, 
Facilitation, Last Rites, whatever…” And then later he says:“Before we do 
anything more, different, or otherwise – I sincerely believe we need to stop 
and appreciate what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with 
minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we might think of 
a few things to do, but only a very few.” Harrison, in my heart of hearts, I 
believe this too.  I believe in “less is more” even though I still struggle in 
living this way.  My struggles will be no different than the struggles of 
others and indeed there is beauty in those struggles, in doing it wrong, in 
losing and finding our way.  It is the essence and unfolding of life.  And what 
I also know is what the “real deal” Open Space can do to snap us out of the 
command/control shackles, to shock us into awareness, a coming home to who we 
are buried there inside of us.  The work ahead, I believe, is to continue to 
invite from the place of where people are, without shame or blame, because they 
cannot know what they do not know until they have experienced it. That power of 
less is more. Knowing that in the "less" lies the best in high performance, 
creativity, human connection and life.  Therein lies the magic of Open Space.  
It gives us a taste of what could be. 
Suzanne Suzanne Daigle
Open Space Facilitator
NuFocus Strategic Group

FL 941-359-8877
Cell: 203-722-2009
www.nufocusgroup.com
s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
Twitter @Daiglesuz


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Continuing with my last post, I want to share some new reflections about the OS 
process. 
If we interpret the first day of a three-day OS event like the "death process" 
that organizations need in order to letting go the past, in order to open space 
for the emergent future possibilities, would it be better to dedicate less time 
to the "death process" in comparison with the time we devore for the "birth 
process"? I know that grief is important and needs time but I think that it is 
more constructive to focus in the future that could emerge.

Assuming this, do you think that it would be a good idea to accelerate the 
"death process" reducing the first day to half day shortening the time of the 
time slots to just 30 minutes as well? With this, the group has almost the same 
 

     From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adri...@diazberrio.com>
 To: agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list 
<oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
Cc: Suzanne Daigle <sdaig...@gmail.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"
   
Hi Agustin: I Like this book theory U I don,t think that I understand it very 
well but I am living mi self this process of letting go and letting come new 
things because I was in Montreal for seven years and now I live in Mexico again 
but in a new city called Queretaro. 
I will be facilitating an OS for the pschology students congress of the 
UCO_Mondragon university.
I am exited to do it.
 But yes every time explaining OS confronts me with this aspect that people 
need to let go to their old model before they accept to try this new one option.

I am also having the same difficulties with the other approach I use calle 
Groupe de codéveloppement profesionel based on experiential learning and group 
interaction. It is also based on the idea that a group has a collective 
intelligence that is bigger when we talk together.
I would like to share this method with people from this list. If someone wants 
to know more and to have a first experience I would like to offer a free on 
line session. I need minimum 3 people and maximum 5. It takes 2 hours. This 
method for me is very powerful and could be complementary with an OS event . 
Contact me if you want to know more!

Thank you for sharing this good ideas and experiences!
Adriana

2015-03-23 21:34 GMT-06:00 agusj via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>:



Hello Suzanne and all,
"The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways 
of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error." Wonderful 
 and provocative thought. 
I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led by 
Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2 concepts that 
are in line with this conversation about death and birth. They are "letting go" 
and "letting come". You have to letting go the past in order to letting come 
the emergent future. I compare this "letting go" with the "death process" you 
are talking about, and the "letting come" with the "birth process" 
respectively.  I would dare say that these both "processes" are also present in 
OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3 three-day OS events and what I have 
observed is that the first day is for "catharsis", and is only after that, that 
the group can overcome the past and is ready to letting come the emergent 
future in the second day.  I think that this "letting come" is possible, 
because OS propitiates the conditions for presencing, that happens at the 
bottom of the U, and this is the point where you connect to your inner source 
of inspiration and will.
I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U 
Theory and OS. Agustin


      From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
 To: OSLIST <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> 
 Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:07 AM
 Subject: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more"
   
Harrison and all,
I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the stirrings of 
self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the 12 organizations 
featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing Organizations. And as luck 
would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star (another Laloux company) was 
touring with me.  The other companies I visited were not at the same level but 
in their heart and actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction.  
Though truly for all, it is the journey and not the destination that 
self-organization represents.  I was in awe and truly could not get enough.  It 
reminded me of those best moments in my own work career when shared pride, 
purpose, collaboration, camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled 
over. Above all, I was struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing 
“extraordinary things”; leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and 
living their own space with others. In the joy of experiencing and reliving the 
intensity and vibrancy of what “work” can and should be like, I was struck and 
deeply saddened knowing how few organizations are operating this way.  How much 
pain and how much “settling and giving up” there still is in the world of work 
today.   I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant. And 
yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness, two 
realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be birthed.  There is 
much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of the “illusion of 
safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are now edging towards 
something that is exerting its pull, something new.  Much has been written 
about the industrial model under which most companies still operate.  A 
top-down hierarchy, command-control system with predictability and efficiency 
built in. The habits of this are embedded everywhere. Most of us know this 
operating system has been pushed to its limits and no longer serves. One can’t 
deny that much good came of it not the least of which we have been given more 
years in this wonderful life. Nor can one deny its excesses, which have caused 
much damage not the least of which to our human spirit on what matters most.  
The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”.  Letting go the old ways of 
doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, 
starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one 
considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization.  This 
represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error. 

Does it require that our organizations hit bottom?  Or perhaps in our souls, we 
know that we have already hit bottom and this will be enough to propel us 
forward.   Harrison says:  “The cure then would be to stop the wounding, at 
least until we could see how things might go. Of course, if the situation is 
really terminal, then by all means. Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, 
Facilitation, Last Rites, whatever…” And then later he says:“Before we do 
anything more, different, or otherwise – I sincerely believe we need to stop 
and appreciate what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with 
minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we might think of 
a few things to do, but only a very few.” Harrison, in my heart of hearts, I 
believe this too.  I believe in “less is more” even though I still struggle in 
living this way.  My struggles will be no different than the struggles of 
others and indeed there is beauty in those struggles, in doing it wrong, in 
losing and finding our way.  It is the essence and unfolding of life.  And what 
I also know is what the “real deal” Open Space can do to snap us out of the 
command/control shackles, to shock us into awareness, a coming home to who we 
are buried there inside of us.  The work ahead, I believe, is to continue to 
invite from the place of where people are, without shame or blame, because they 
cannot know what they do not know until they have experienced it. That power of 
less is more. Knowing that in the "less" lies the best in high performance, 
creativity, human connection and life.  Therein lies the magic of Open Space.  
It gives us a taste of what could be. 
Suzanne Suzanne Daigle
Open Space Facilitator
NuFocus Strategic Group

FL 941-359-8877
Cell: 203-722-2009
www.nufocusgroup.com
s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com
Twitter @Daiglesuz


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