For me, to honor the poignant messy beauty of the grief cycle, the differences in individual experiences of the timing, and the mystery of 'crossing the open space' into a readiness to create anew, I'd be personally hesitant to try to speed it up by design.
In my experience, two day OST meetings have crossed the open space by the middle of the second day and folks are ready to fly into action together. However this did leave the 'action' phase less time than optimal probably. These were the days before good pre-work : ) Note these were Americans and cultural differences may give different dynamics. And people may be better at it nowadays, or not. I assume that hosting space for depth in the grief work allows people to go farther together when they reach the other side. OST supports the cycle to take its own shape as it needs. Jeff -------- Original message -------- From: Harrison via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> Date:03/25/2015 4:29 PM (GMT-08:00) To: 'agusj' <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>,'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Interesting idea. And I’ve never known Grief (dying, birthing) to happen on a schedule. Seems to happen when it happens. Harrison Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac, MD 20854 301-365-2093 Summer Address 189 Beaucaire Ave. Camden, ME 04843 207-763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com www.ho-image.com OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of agusj via OSList Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:16 PM To: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring; World wide Open Space Technology email list Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Hello, Continuing with my last post, I want to share some new reflections about the OS process. If we interpret the first day of a three-day OS event like the "death process" that organizations need in order to letting go the past, to open space for the emergent future possibilities, would it be better to dedicate less time to the "death process" in comparison with the time we devote for the "birth process"? I know that grief is important and needs time, but I think that it is more constructive to focus in the future that could emerge. Assuming this, do you think that it would be a good idea reduce the first day to half day and shorten the time slots to 30 minutes, in order to accelerate the "death process"? The first agenda would be established for this half day. With this, the group has almost the same number of conversations, although these are shorter. To close this first half day elegantly, you do it with a closing circle. In this way, the group have one day and a half to the creative process and this phase would start with an opening circle and a new agenda. Make sense? Warm regards, Agustin From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adri...@diazberrio.com> To: agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> Cc: Suzanne Daigle <sdaig...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Hi Agustin: I Like this book theory U I don,t think that I understand it very well but I am living mi self this process of letting go and letting come new things because I was in Montreal for seven years and now I live in Mexico again but in a new city called Queretaro. I will be facilitating an OS for the pschology students congress of the UCO_Mondragon university. I am exited to do it. But yes every time explaining OS confronts me with this aspect that people need to let go to their old model before they accept to try this new one option. I am also having the same difficulties with the other approach I use calle Groupe de codéveloppement profesionel based on experiential learning and group interaction. It is also based on the idea that a group has a collective intelligence that is bigger when we talk together. I would like to share this method with people from this list. If someone wants to know more and to have a first experience I would like to offer a free on line session. I need minimum 3 people and maximum 5. It takes 2 hours. This method for me is very powerful and could be complementary with an OS event . Contact me if you want to know more! Thank you for sharing this good ideas and experiences! Adriana 2015-03-23 21:34 GMT-06:00 agusj via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>: Hello Suzanne and all, "The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”. Letting go the old ways of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization. This represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error." Wonderful and provocative thought. I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led by Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2 concepts that are in line with this conversation about death and birth. They are "letting go" and "letting come". You have to letting go the past in order to letting come the emergent future. I compare this "letting go" with the "death process" you are talking about, and the "letting come" with the "birth process" respectively. I would dare say that these both "processes" are also present in OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3 three-day OS events and what I have observed is that the first day is for "catharsis", and is only after that, that the group can overcome the past and is ready to letting come the emergent future in the second day. I think that this "letting come" is possible, because OS propitiates the conditions for presencing, that happens at the bottom of the U, and this is the point where you connect to your inner source of inspiration and will. I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U Theory and OS. Agustin From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> To: OSLIST <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:07 AM Subject: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Harrison and all, I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the stirrings of self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the 12 organizations featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing Organizations. And as luck would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star (another Laloux company) was touring with me. The other companies I visited were not at the same level but in their heart and actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction. Though truly for all, it is the journey and not the destination that self-organization represents. I was in awe and truly could not get enough. It reminded me of those best moments in my own work career when shared pride, purpose, collaboration, camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled over. Above all, I was struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing “extraordinary things”; leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and living their own space with others. In the joy of experiencing and reliving the intensity and vibrancy of what “work” can and should be like, I was struck and deeply saddened knowing how few organizations are operating this way. How much pain and how much “settling and giving up” there still is in the world of work today. I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant. And yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness, two realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be birthed. There is much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of the “illusion of safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are now edging towards something that is exerting its pull, something new. Much has been written about the industrial model under which most companies still operate. A top-down hierarchy, command-control system with predictability and efficiency built in. The habits of this are embedded everywhere. Most of us know this operating system has been pushed to its limits and no longer serves. One can’t deny that much good came of it not the least of which we have been given more years in this wonderful life. Nor can one deny its excesses, which have caused much damage not the least of which to our human spirit on what matters most. The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”. Letting go the old ways of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization. This represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error. Does it require that our organizations hit bottom? Or perhaps in our souls, we know that we have already hit bottom and this will be enough to propel us forward. Harrison says: “The cure then would be to stop the wounding, at least until we could see how things might go. Of course, if the situation is really terminal, then by all means. Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, Last Rites, whatever…” And then later he says: “Before we do anything more, different, or otherwise – I sincerely believe we need to stop and appreciate what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we might think of a few things to do, but only a very few.” Harrison, in my heart of hearts, I believe this too. I believe in “less is more” even though I still struggle in living this way. My struggles will be no different than the struggles of others and indeed there is beauty in those struggles, in doing it wrong, in losing and finding our way. It is the essence and unfolding of life. And what I also know is what the “real deal” Open Space can do to snap us out of the command/control shackles, to shock us into awareness, a coming home to who we are buried there inside of us. The work ahead, I believe, is to continue to invite from the place of where people are, without shame or blame, because they cannot know what they do not know until they have experienced it. That power of less is more. Knowing that in the "less" lies the best in high performance, creativity, human connection and life. Therein lies the magic of Open Space. It gives us a taste of what could be. Suzanne Suzanne Daigle Open Space Facilitator NuFocus Strategic Group FL 941-359-8877 Cell: 203-722-2009 www.nufocusgroup.com s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com Twitter @Daiglesuz _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Enviado desde mi iPad _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org -- Dra. Adriana Díaz-Berrio CRHA 438 338 1654 (Montreal, Canadá) (52) 442 212 63 92 (Querétaro fijo) (52) 55 13 28 19 12 (México DF) www.diazberrio.com Continuing with my last post, I want to share some new reflections about the OS process. If we interpret the first day of a three-day OS event like the "death process" that organizations need in order to letting go the past, in order to open space for the emergent future possibilities, would it be better to dedicate less time to the "death process" in comparison with the time we devore for the "birth process"? I know that grief is important and needs time but I think that it is more constructive to focus in the future that could emerge. Assuming this, do you think that it would be a good idea to accelerate the "death process" reducing the first day to half day shortening the time of the time slots to just 30 minutes as well? With this, the group has almost the same From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adri...@diazberrio.com> To: agusj <agusjs2...@yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> Cc: Suzanne Daigle <sdaig...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Hi Agustin: I Like this book theory U I don,t think that I understand it very well but I am living mi self this process of letting go and letting come new things because I was in Montreal for seven years and now I live in Mexico again but in a new city called Queretaro. I will be facilitating an OS for the pschology students congress of the UCO_Mondragon university. I am exited to do it. But yes every time explaining OS confronts me with this aspect that people need to let go to their old model before they accept to try this new one option. I am also having the same difficulties with the other approach I use calle Groupe de codéveloppement profesionel based on experiential learning and group interaction. It is also based on the idea that a group has a collective intelligence that is bigger when we talk together. I would like to share this method with people from this list. If someone wants to know more and to have a first experience I would like to offer a free on line session. I need minimum 3 people and maximum 5. It takes 2 hours. This method for me is very powerful and could be complementary with an OS event . Contact me if you want to know more! Thank you for sharing this good ideas and experiences! Adriana 2015-03-23 21:34 GMT-06:00 agusj via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>: Hello Suzanne and all, "The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”. Letting go the old ways of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization. This represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error." Wonderful and provocative thought. I had the opportunity and the privelege of participating in the ULab led by Otto Sharmer some weeks ago. In my humble opinion, U Theory has 2 concepts that are in line with this conversation about death and birth. They are "letting go" and "letting come". You have to letting go the past in order to letting come the emergent future. I compare this "letting go" with the "death process" you are talking about, and the "letting come" with the "birth process" respectively. I would dare say that these both "processes" are also present in OS. In the last year, I have facilitated 3 three-day OS events and what I have observed is that the first day is for "catharsis", and is only after that, that the group can overcome the past and is ready to letting come the emergent future in the second day. I think that this "letting come" is possible, because OS propitiates the conditions for presencing, that happens at the bottom of the U, and this is the point where you connect to your inner source of inspiration and will. I am eager to hear your ideas about this connection I have found between U Theory and OS. Agustin From: Suzanne Daigle via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> To: OSLIST <OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 7:07 AM Subject: [OSList] From "here to there"... "less is more" Harrison and all, I had the opportunity to visit some companies lately that had the stirrings of self-organization. One of them, Sun Hydraulics, was among the 12 organizations featured in Frederic Laloux’s book: Reinventing Organizations. And as luck would have it, Doug Kirkpatrick of Morning Star (another Laloux company) was touring with me. The other companies I visited were not at the same level but in their heart and actions, I knew they were heading in the same direction. Though truly for all, it is the journey and not the destination that self-organization represents. I was in awe and truly could not get enough. It reminded me of those best moments in my own work career when shared pride, purpose, collaboration, camaraderie, high performance and aliveness bubbled over. Above all, I was struck by the wonderful “ordinary” people doing “extraordinary things”; leadership lurking everywhere, individuals taking and living their own space with others. In the joy of experiencing and reliving the intensity and vibrancy of what “work” can and should be like, I was struck and deeply saddened knowing how few organizations are operating this way. How much pain and how much “settling and giving up” there still is in the world of work today. I see and feel the contrast of the two: lifeless versus vibrant. And yet in the despair of knowing this, I sense a shift in consciousness, two realities colliding, as one world dies, another waits to be birthed. There is much “hanging on” in companies today with a grasping of the “illusion of safety” that our old system operated on, whilst many are now edging towards something that is exerting its pull, something new. Much has been written about the industrial model under which most companies still operate. A top-down hierarchy, command-control system with predictability and efficiency built in. The habits of this are embedded everywhere. Most of us know this operating system has been pushed to its limits and no longer serves. One can’t deny that much good came of it not the least of which we have been given more years in this wonderful life. Nor can one deny its excesses, which have caused much damage not the least of which to our human spirit on what matters most. The challenge is how to get from “here” to “there”. Letting go the old ways of doing things, acknowledging the futility of much that we are now doing, starting to operate from a whole new frame, almost from scratch if one considers the contrast between hierarchy and self-organization. This represents a ton of internal grief work and lots of trial and error. Does it require that our organizations hit bottom? Or perhaps in our souls, we know that we have already hit bottom and this will be enough to propel us forward. Harrison says: “The cure then would be to stop the wounding, at least until we could see how things might go. Of course, if the situation is really terminal, then by all means. Bring it on! That could be SCRUM, Facilitation, Last Rites, whatever…” And then later he says: “Before we do anything more, different, or otherwise – I sincerely believe we need to stop and appreciate what apparently happens very naturally, all by itself, with minimal or no assistance. And after that appreciative moment, we might think of a few things to do, but only a very few.” Harrison, in my heart of hearts, I believe this too. I believe in “less is more” even though I still struggle in living this way. My struggles will be no different than the struggles of others and indeed there is beauty in those struggles, in doing it wrong, in losing and finding our way. It is the essence and unfolding of life. And what I also know is what the “real deal” Open Space can do to snap us out of the command/control shackles, to shock us into awareness, a coming home to who we are buried there inside of us. The work ahead, I believe, is to continue to invite from the place of where people are, without shame or blame, because they cannot know what they do not know until they have experienced it. That power of less is more. Knowing that in the "less" lies the best in high performance, creativity, human connection and life. Therein lies the magic of Open Space. It gives us a taste of what could be. Suzanne Suzanne Daigle Open Space Facilitator NuFocus Strategic Group FL 941-359-8877 Cell: 203-722-2009 www.nufocusgroup.com s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com Twitter @Daiglesuz _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Enviado desde mi iPad _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org -- Dra. 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