very nice, lucas! though i think the beautiful pictures distract from the elegance of your framing work and maybe from meeting content, too. i added a small heap of user stories for you in the front porch notes.
m -- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile) http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 11:38 PM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Hi Birgitt, thank you for the useful questions. Using one's own story as > an invitation is a great idea, and there's a project that I can apply it > to. Also, the idea of a group of people taking turns "occupying" an online > space for hours/days that you mention is pretty awesome. Maybe there's an > application of this idea in the "online house prototype" mentioned below. > > Brian Burt, I do look forward to seeing the upcoming innovations with > MaestroConference that you mention. It's already a ground-breaking > platform. > > Michael Herman, I love the zoom in/out idea. Thanks for all the detailed > thinking and mentioning how online spaces are just another form of space. > When we ran the Video Open Space on Open Space last year, it was a > revelation to me that when everyone is on video, they are > connecting/sharing their own private spaces (ie kitchen tables). > > Ben Roberts, I look forward to seeing your next innovation/experiment. I > especially liked participating in the online gift economy last year. > > For whomever is interested, based on this OSList thread, I made some > changes this evening to QiqoChat video events. My goal is to create a more > minimalist version that could be used for OST. A Qiqo live event consists > of a breakout space with a notetaking space plus a button to connect > through Zoom video. Also, you can see how many people are in each of the > other spaces so you know when to use your two feet. > > As Ben mentioned about tools in general, no tool is sufficient on its own; > skilled facilitation is the key ingredient in hosting a successful event. > Tonight's iteration is still rough, but it has a playful feel. I named the > spaces in this virtual house (kitchen, garden, sun room, pool, etc) and a > background photo for each. > > *When people go to this demo online OST, they arrive on the "Front > Porch". A screenshot is attached.* That's where the opening circle > would happen and where the marketplace wall would be posted. Then > participants can go into all the other rooms for their breakouts. > > *For the curious folks out there, *here's the link to test > <https://qiqochat.com/breakout/0/tddbQjxXRaQZEUDQoTCORGONq>. If you > don't have an account and you don't want to create an account, you can sign > in with "t...@test.com" and a password of "test". > > *I must give credit to Suzanne Daigle for this idea of hosting inside a > house.* She mentioned this idea in her email post two days ago and for > over a year, she had been suggesting that I should create something that > feels like a house online. So tonight I said "What the heck?" and gave her > idea a try. This is a very neat idea, and I think it opens up a whole > bunch of possibilities for replicating physical spaces online. Michael > Herman has also been innovating in this way with Sococo and generously > sharing his thoughts here on OSList. > > If anyone has any suggestions/questions, please add your reply here. I > welcome additional feedback; this is innovation in the open, and anyone > working on a tech experiment/platform will benefit from this discussion. > > Lucas Cioffi > Charlottesville, VA > Mobile: 917-528-1831 > > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Lucas, >> I cannot seem to stay on the intended topic of this thread...to get >> ideas. I am aware of how short lived creations can be, before they morph >> into something else. I also realized I asked insufficient questions in a >> prior post. The questions I feel need to be answered are: >> Lucas...what are you passionate about with this work you are into, what >> brings a fire to your heart and soul? And then go with it, whatever it may >> be. Someone and maybe many someones will say 'this is just what I need!". >> Follow your bliss and they will come. When something is created from heart >> centered 'this is what I am in the world to do' and 'this is my bit for >> creating a more nourishing future for humanity' you are on the right track. >> >> Michael...in that training you did where the 'we' of that group concluded >> that OST could be distilled to people and story, that is one example that >> comes out of doing that exercise. having done this exercise with lots of >> people, the results are diverse, with different people and groups of people >> reaching different conclusions. One of the things I say to the facilitators >> is that no one except them can make the choice of what constitutes and OST >> meeting and what does not based on whatever elements they personally feel >> are necessary. It depends very much on what their hearts are calling them >> to create. >> >> What feels like space that is open to one person feels like closed space >> to another person. >> >> I believe Chris Corrigan spoke about the artistry. >> >> What I can imagine that would open space for me is a drumming circle. No >> topics, no reports, etc. Just someone present all of the time (alternating >> people) who are willing to keep the drumming circle going. As different >> ones of us join in, each with our own drums, choosing video feed or not, >> people join in the beat, maybe aligning with the heartbeat of the earth. >> Somewhere on the screen, there could be a space for capturing reflections >> that happened during the participation of the individual...in words and in >> drawings and other graphics. I could imagine this gaining quite a >> following...although if your intent is money making, it might need to be >> donation based. >> >> Blessings, >> Birgitt >> >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:56 PM Michael Herman via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >>> I watched a video yesterday from a recent conference, a traditional >>> affair with all shapes and sizes of workshop/presentation sessions. This >>> one I was watching had a sort of panel presentation, with five different >>> people sharing stories. All of their stories were accompanied by a >>> powerpoint backdrop, but that is sort of forgivable since their topic was >>> specifically about visualization of complex work and dynamics. Would have >>> been weird without some visuals to their stories of visualizations. >>> >>> The interesting thing is that one of the panelists was across an ocean. >>> He presented on the big screen, shared his screen to show his examples, and >>> all through the session he watched the audience and the other speakers on >>> his laptop. He asked questions of the audience and got a show of hands. >>> He was totally there. >>> >>> So some of the wondering about face-to-face or online sounds like to me >>> a bit like asking if open space needs a fancy retreat setting or could it >>> happen in a ballroom or church basement or middle school gymnasium. Online >>> in just another place. Wherever it happens, it's open space, right >>> enough. You can search the archives for when Ralph Copleman had us cooking >>> up solutions for opening for a large-ish group on a beach. >>> >>> In a session at the same conference I mentioned, we did two sessions on >>> distributed teamwork, where people from all over work on the same team >>> everyday. We had 40-50 people in the room and another 10 or so online, via >>> sococo.com and also using some little robot gizmos each of which lets >>> one person put their face on an ipad and remotely control the neck that >>> holds it, so they can turn their head, nod, look up and down. >>> >>> in a recent training conversation we boiled down the must-haves in open >>> space to just two. we wiped out circle, postits, chairs, and so on. we >>> decided the two essentials were people and a story. >>> >>> so if the fifth principle works, online is just another place. yes, >>> some places are better for us than others. pillars are a hassle. so's not >>> being able to see faces of other ppts. not being able to move myself >>> between breakouts is pretty much like fixed theater seating. >>> >>> what works online? pretty much what works everywhere else. we need >>> people and a story, someplace to tell the story, so that implies a >>> gathering place. we need a way to see other ppts, their faces and their >>> groupings in clusters of conversation. we need a way to wander around and >>> get in other people's view, to be noticed, so we can say hello. we need a >>> way to write and read topics for discussion and hang them somewhere. We >>> need a way for anyone to ask the facilitator a question, but ideally not in >>> the middle of the opening briefing, or right as it finishes. A way to >>> capture notes and share them with everyone. >>> >>> The onscreen view can be very simple. I'm wondering just now what it >>> would look like as a slightly larger than screen-sized space, so it needed >>> to be moved around and zoomed like a google map. That's a totally new idea >>> for me, just now, and I think i do like that. Zoom and Slide in a big >>> online working space. Can you rig that up, Lucas? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Michael Herman >>> Michael Herman Associates >>> 312-280-7838 (mobile) >>> >>> http://MichaelHerman.com >>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList < >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Makes me of the response from a techie on why they still have face to >>>> face meetings with all the tech available for communication: higher >>>> bandwidth. >>>> >>>> Ben — thanks for painting a terrific picture of the potential. >>>> >>>> Peggy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________________ >>>> Peggy Holman >>>> Executive Director >>>> Journalism that Matters >>>> 15347 SE 49th Place >>>> Bellevue, WA 98006 >>>> 425-746-6274 >>>> www.journalismthatmatters.net >>>> www.peggyholman.com >>>> Twitter: @peggyholman >>>> JTM Twitter: @JTMStream >>>> >>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into >>>> Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 31, 2016, at 5:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList < >>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> The story of OS and the Techies is a long one. As it happened, the >>>> folks who were present for the first OS, and subsequently constituted major >>>> parts of the early community were all Techies of a sort. Some of them >>>> actually designed systems and wrote code and others were more “eager >>>> participants” – that would include me. The new toy was Internet, which at >>>> the point we became involved was still property of the US Army and known as >>>> DARPA NET. The world changed under our feet, and the word “exciting” is >>>> pretty limp. >>>> >>>> Early on some of the commercial techies thought they saw possibilities >>>> in OS. One group came to me with what they thought was a revolutionary >>>> idea: Set up a room full of laptops and have everybody communicate through >>>> them and a “master” screen set on the wall. The whole thing was prewired >>>> and magnificently packaged. They made their presentation, but their faces >>>> fell when I said, “Guys, we could actually talk to each other.” In fact, I >>>> believe they made a fair amount of money selling the thing to corporations >>>> who were (had been) convinced that their executives were too shy, or >>>> whatever, to communicate directly, face to face. >>>> >>>> The iterations have continued over the years. You know the most recent >>>> ones, but there are more. I have always admired the energy and creativity. >>>> But at the end of the day, I really didn’t see much value added that >>>> couldn’t have been supplied (at much less cost) by the simple application >>>> of everyday, off the shelf kinds of stuff. I do grant that the proposed >>>> systems were an awful lot prettier – and I really was impressed with my >>>> electronic “birthday.” But from the very beginning it seemed to me that we >>>> were looking at a technology in search of an application. I totally >>>> understand the techie attraction, and I salute their tenacity…. >>>> >>>> Somehow, the attempt to “replicate the Open Space experience online” >>>> just doesn’t catch me. The comparison is indeed odious – but it rather >>>> reminds me of attempting to replicate making love. >>>> >>>> So I guess I am back to where I started – What next? It’s wide open and >>>> massively potential… but we ain’t there yet. I don’t think. >>>> >>>> Harrison >>>> >>>> >>>> Winter Address >>>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> 301-365-2093 >>>> >>>> Summer Address >>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>> 207 763-3261 >>>> >>>> Websites >>>> www.openspaceworld.com >>>> www.ho-image.com >>>> >>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> <oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] *On Behalf Of *Suzanne >>>> Daigle via OSList >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 30, 2016 6:06 PM >>>> *To:* Harrison Owen >>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using >>>> video chat? >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello HO, >>>> >>>> NOW WHAT indeed! >>>> >>>> No more apologies for getting carried away. Be it me bubbling forth >>>> with the feeling of "love", a word I would not have dared utter loudly in >>>> public, most especially in professional contexts. Yet those feelings are >>>> undeniably there and I shall utter them as they happen. :-) So far I've >>>> survived speaking my mind... Even more it's blasted holes by opening more >>>> space that led to productive inspired work, in ways that made me happy I >>>> didn't keep my mouth shut. With guys and gals. >>>> >>>> Nor shall I hold back on what I envision in the virtual world. Beyond >>>> the so called internet. As one who has hosted often in my physical house >>>> and been similarly hosted in the homes of others, I know there is more to >>>> be invented there. >>>> While I may not be the one doing the inventing, I will gladly partake >>>> in the joy of this imagined future experience and I will wholeheartedly >>>> nudge, prod, and encourage those who passionately see beyond the reaches of >>>> what I see. >>>> >>>> So rather than a duel on the matter, what say you to a hearty Martini >>>> in Manila so I can paint a picture of what I see? >>>> >>>> After all, you're the one who got me in this mess of Open Space with >>>> all this spirited wave rider stuff and grateful am I that it came my way! >>>> >>>> From a happy Florida camper, >>>> Suzanne >>>> >>>> On Aug 30, 2016 5:38 PM, "Harrison Owen" <hho...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > OK – You do get carried away for a bit! But you are right!! AND. Your >>>> imagination is exceeded only by reality!!! (“Today as I imagine the >>>> possibility of a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with >>>> family, friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I >>>> know that this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, >>>> Sharon Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc.”) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Suzanne – This is what we do. Every day. All the time. Ever >>>> since!!!! It’s called The Internet. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > NOW WHAT! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ho >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Winter Address >>>> > >>>> > 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>> > >>>> > Potomac, MD 20854 >>>> > >>>> > 301-365-2093 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Summer Address >>>> > >>>> > 189 Beaucauire Ave >>>> > >>>> > Camden, ME 04843 >>>> > >>>> > 207 763-3261 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Websites >>>> > >>>> > www.openspaceworld.com >>>> > >>>> > www.ho-image.com >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Suzanne Daigle via OSList >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 5:07 PM >>>> > >>>> > To: Lucas Cioffi; World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>> > Subject: Re: [OSList] What is the sweet spot for Online OS using >>>> video chat? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Dear Lucas and all, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > As you pose your question and I saw the replies, I realize once again >>>> how passionate you, Ben Roberts, Brian Burt and others are about creating >>>> virtual experiences for others and with others. With the spirit and >>>> essence of Open Space. Thank you so very much! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > In seeing your names, I relived the magic of past virtual Open Space >>>> events (Brené Brown and the Global Conversation - Maestro and Brian Burt) >>>> and Harrison's 80th Birthday Party (Lucas and Michael Herman) last year >>>> and yes WOSonOS Florida too (Ben Roberts and others) with opportunities >>>> here and there to welcome colleagues. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > None perfect but all exhilarating in the trailblazing and >>>> experiencing of it. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Lucas I share your "Field of Dream Passion - Build it and They Will >>>> Come" though not in developing, refining, improving or simplifying the >>>> mechanics of it in the backroom so all can go smooth in the virtual space. >>>> That is not my expertise or passion. It is the work of unsung heroes. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > If I was to focus on your word "simplest" aka "simplify", I wonder if >>>> we could not create the feel of sitting in a circle without talking about a >>>> circle (like sitting around a campfire, in the comfort of your living room >>>> or around your kitchen table)? Rather than breakouts, could we have rooms >>>> and corners where people can go hang out? Rather than a marketplace wall, >>>> it could be like going to a movie with a bill board that announces the >>>> movies that are playing. Then of course you could see who's there, in which >>>> room. People would instantly think this is really cool and not a process >>>> thing. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > We know that Open Space works best when we don't talk about Open >>>> Space; we don't talk about a circle, breakouts and stuff. We simply invite >>>> from the purpose, theme or reason for meeting. In those first moments of >>>> sitting in a circle, looking at the floor and the marketplace wall, it all >>>> seems so foreign to people who have never experienced OS before. Why then >>>> should we bring these concepts into the virtual space? We don't have to >>>> counteract the familiarity of a theatre style setting, reject the podium or >>>> a panel of speakers. >>>> > >>>> > We can create brand new space - a space of welcome, connecting and >>>> getting things done from the comfort of our own home or office or wherever. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > For each element of Open Space, there could be a way of explaining it >>>> that invites a degree of freedom that feels different, open and fun. People >>>> might attribute it to "this is how it happens virtually" and in the process >>>> they would be living the law of two feet. We'd be communicating intent as >>>> we give the mechanics of how to move around. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I'm sorry if I got a bit carried away. Ben Roberts once told me years >>>> ago that he pictured that some virtual meetings could be better than in >>>> person. I didn't quite believe him. Today as I imagine the possibility of >>>> a Virtual House where I could drop in to just hang out with family, >>>> friends, colleagues and Open Space pals, from around the world, I know that >>>> this possibility exists. To see Tova in Israel, Claudia in Egypt, Sharon >>>> Joy in Manila, Alan in Australia, etc. etc. etc. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Suzanne >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Suzanne Daigle >>>> > Open Space Facilitator >>>> > NuFocus Strategic Group >>>> > >>>> > FL 941-359-8877 >>>> > Cell: 203-722-2009 >>>> > www.nufocusgroup.com >>>> > s.dai...@nufocusgroup.com >>>> > Twitter @Daiglesuz >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Lucas Cioffi via OSList < >>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi All, >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I would be super-excited to hear how folks would design the simplest >>>> online Open Space experience using video chat. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I posted my thoughts below, but I put them further down so that you >>>> might have a moment to think about what online OS experience would work >>>> best for you, rather than letting my thoughts influence yours. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > My... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > thoughts... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > are... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > down... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > below... >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Here are my rough thoughts: >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 1. When the event begins you open up a webpage. You can see the >>>> following: >>>> > >>>> > where the opening circle is >>>> > how many virtual breakout spaces there are >>>> > who is in each virtual space right now >>>> > what is being discussed now and in the future (a bulletin board / >>>> marketplace / idea wall) >>>> > >>>> > 2. Next you choose to enter a space by turning on your video chat. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Note: The following features seem helpful but not necessary: >>>> > >>>> > 3. When you arrive in a space, you see a shared notes area available >>>> to all participants. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 4. There is a way to raise your hand to indicate that you'd like to >>>> speak. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 5. There is a way to share a quick message such as ("I have to step >>>> away for a moment"). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks so much for any advice. I look forward to hearing what you >>>> have in mind! >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Lucas Cioffi >>>> > >>>> > Founder, QiqoChat >>>> > >>>> > Charlottesville, VA >>>> > >>>> > Mobile: 917-528-1831 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > OSList mailing list >>>> > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive. >>>> com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive. >>>> com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> OSList mailing list >>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os >>>> l...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os >>> l...@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os >> l...@lists.openspacetech.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >
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