-- Michael Herman Michael Herman Associates 312-280-7838 (mobile)
http://MichaelHerman.com http://OpenSpaceWorld.org On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Levy via OSList < oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > I believe the orientation of the facilitator to be one of "loving > indifference"; > > - love for the beauty and eloquent simplicity of OST > - love for the - as yet to emerge - potential of the self organising > meeting > > The facilitator need not hope for the best nor fear the worst. Their > indifference - rooted in a deeper love of the "whatever" - is then an > eloquent, gentle, minimally supportive spiritual symmetry. > > Best wishes > > Paul Levy > > > > On 1 Sep 2017 13:48, "Birgitt Williams via OSList" < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > >> Hi Lucas, >> I think it is helpful to have an attitude of 'we are going to create >> something amazing and people will take action' within yourself. I cannot >> imagine this going so well if there is any question within the facilitator >> that there will be limited outcomes. And so I encourage you to think that >> there have been many community OST events that have had outstanding >> actions/follow through....and there have. >> >> I agree with Michael about many community events being geared to >> conversation which is a great step forward just by itself...a noble reason >> for OST. >> >> I also know that by stating 'givens' if it feels right to you to do so, >> you could have as given: >> -time will be given towards the end of the meeting to read reports of the >> discussion groups >> -dot voting to discern what the people really have energy for will be done >> -based on the data we have...the reports and the results of the >> voting...next steps for action will be invited >> >> >> when a meeting is designed to garner action, there are additional design >> elements. >> >> Blessings, >> Birgitt >> >> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> >> wrote: >> >>> To your observation, Lucas, many community os and onconf events invite >>> conversation rather than action. Need to invite action but also need to >>> invite it at scale and expertise and resource levels that are true for the >>> group. The tools you're offering might be useful but only if folks have the >>> expertise, time, maybe money, etc they need. Inviting only those who do >>> might shrink attendance. That's where some chest and invite less than they >>> really want. Sometimes groups can go find what heft need as first action >>> steps. Sometimes it possible or necessary to bring key resources as part of >>> the invite. Anyway, the main thing is to start and see who comes, what they >>> have and want and might do. It might take more than one meeting <grin> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:09 Michael Herman <mich...@michaelherman.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Adding to birgitt... open space for *more* of the community we love. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:00 Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Instead of inviting questions, ask for a show of hands from everyone >>>>> who has enough clarity to proceed. Ask people to hold their hands high. >>>>> Then tell everyone that if you have a question about how things will work, >>>>> ask one of the people with their hands held up. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> ___________ >>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN >>>>> www.chriscorrigan.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList < >>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Lucas, >>>>> I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised. >>>>> >>>>> I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too >>>>> small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". >>>>> I >>>>> would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of >>>>> Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I >>>>> would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who >>>>> knows what inspirations might show up! >>>>> >>>>> I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'! >>>>> Birgitt >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList < >>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they >>>>>> are essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules." >>>>>> the >>>>>> law, for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you >>>>>> and only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you >>>>>> can." this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it >>>>>> at >>>>>> your own risk. the moving about with two feet is just describing what >>>>>> happens when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law. >>>>>> >>>>>> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise >>>>>> safety. that's a tall order. made taller by simultaneously saying that >>>>>> ALL ideas are welcome. the combination of inviting everyone to learn and >>>>>> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be >>>>>> surprised, on the other, should be enough. if you promise "safe" space, >>>>>> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as >>>>>> responsible. what you want is for everyone to be responsible for >>>>>> everyone's safety. when the event finishes and everyone is still okay, >>>>>> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself, >>>>>> perhaps even the MOST important thing. the principles and law accomplish >>>>>> that pretty well. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael Herman >>>>>> Michael Herman Associates >>>>>> 312-280-7838 <(312)%20280-7838> (mobile) >>>>>> >>>>>> http://MichaelHerman.com >>>>>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList < >>>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May >>>>>>> seem rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear >>>>>>> upon >>>>>>> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side >>>>>>> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One >>>>>>> Law >>>>>>> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Harrison >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winter Address >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Summer Address >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Websites >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.ho-image.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On >>>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM >>>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply. Below is the >>>>>>> draft script for the event. I wrote it down since I'm out of practice. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> won't read it word for word; it's just a guide. You'll see the rules >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> the law are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will >>>>>>> understand it better if we explain it like this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I may be very wrong about that. I'm just doing what seems >>>>>>> best in my judgement. I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 8:30am: Opening >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [JESSICA] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome, everyone. My name is Jessica G. And my name is Lucas C. >>>>>>> All of us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work >>>>>>> together. If this goes well, it could be the start of something big. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished. We have a window of >>>>>>> opportunity for a second act. That window is closing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not >>>>>>> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community. But we need vision, >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s >>>>>>> why >>>>>>> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from >>>>>>> across >>>>>>> the political spectrum. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [LUCAS] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make >>>>>>> of it. Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> get out of the way >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea, >>>>>>> even ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a >>>>>>> place >>>>>>> of respect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers >>>>>>> you, first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of >>>>>>> respect. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> · Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if >>>>>>> you can. We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> think about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> most people. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think big. What can we do as a tech community and as a city that >>>>>>> makes a splash nationally? Can you think of a solution that breaks out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> the left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality >>>>>>> rather than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past? >>>>>>> Can you find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here’s how this event will happen. You see over there an open >>>>>>> agenda wall. Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> room, Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2. Going down the left >>>>>>> side, >>>>>>> you see three rounds of discussion. Each round lasts 40 minutes with a >>>>>>> 5-minute break in between. There will be a 15-minute closing session at >>>>>>> the end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session, >>>>>>> then please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session >>>>>>> topic. You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of >>>>>>> paper >>>>>>> and a marker. Write the discussion topic and your name. Announce it, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> then post it on the agenda wall. Sessions should be conversational >>>>>>> rather >>>>>>> than presentations or monologues. All you have to do have are some >>>>>>> great >>>>>>> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want >>>>>>> to hold before we get started. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (pause for a minute) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session >>>>>>> topic and then announce it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions. This is your event, so you >>>>>>> won’t see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the >>>>>>> need >>>>>>> to wrap up. If your conversation is running long, please take it to the >>>>>>> cafe area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the >>>>>>> next >>>>>>> session in that space. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a >>>>>>> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly >>>>>>> encouraged to >>>>>>> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more. >>>>>>> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to >>>>>>> just hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with >>>>>>> someone >>>>>>> outside. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not >>>>>>> attend. We expect that many people across the community will want to >>>>>>> organize around your ideas and help you implement them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Are there any questions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (pause) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, the session topics are posted. Let’s make today count. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 11:15am: Closing >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [Jessica] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Welcome back. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (pause) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hho...@verizon.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sounds wonderful . But what is this “openspacish” event? Just do >>>>>>> it. And if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Mayor – and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ho >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winter Address >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Summer Address >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Camden, ME 04843 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Websites >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.ho-image.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] *On >>>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM >>>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list >>>>>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought >>>>>>> I need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when >>>>>>> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters >>>>>>> clashed. One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by >>>>>>> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> and injuring 19. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what >>>>>>> should we do? We should open some space. I'm putting together a 3-hour >>>>>>> open space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and >>>>>>> inviting local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> what we as technologists have to offer. If this goes well, we'll hold a >>>>>>> larger open space for all of Cville. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some >>>>>>> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn. I'll >>>>>>> also >>>>>>> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts). >>>>>>> If/when >>>>>>> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in >>>>>>> the open. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lu...@qiqochat.com> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2) >>>>>>> To: "ncdd-discuss...@lists.ncdd.org" <ncdd-discuss...@lists.ncdd.org >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv >>>>>>> over the past sixteen days! I've learned so much from the resources and >>>>>>> ideas you have all shared. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *UPDATES* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just >>>>>>> beginning. Last night the Department of Justice's Community >>>>>>> Relations Service <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created >>>>>>> as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) held their first public town >>>>>>> meeting >>>>>>> here. I posted rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people >>>>>>> were talking about. It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 >>>>>>> hours. >>>>>>> The meeting was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 >>>>>>> people >>>>>>> present. Everyone had a chance at the microphone. There were no time >>>>>>> limits. There were 10 news crews present. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Big themes that I heard: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but >>>>>>> also about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and >>>>>>> pervasive racism >>>>>>> - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August >>>>>>> 12th >>>>>>> - many people feel the community is still not safe for them >>>>>>> - several people mentioning that they want to take action into >>>>>>> their own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence, >>>>>>> including the one guy who said he was the one who threatened the >>>>>>> mayor at >>>>>>> the last City Council meeting) >>>>>>> - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general >>>>>>> idea of taking down monuments >>>>>>> - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from >>>>>>> the city (& police) to the DOJ and the President >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *NEXT STEPS* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is >>>>>>> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday. The target audience >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist >>>>>>> groups. >>>>>>> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be >>>>>>> open >>>>>>> to everyone in Charlottesville. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of >>>>>>> this listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> we may plan. I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached >>>>>>> out. For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan >>>>>>> online dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by >>>>>>> QiqoChat) during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and >>>>>>> use any dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across >>>>>>> the country. We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> you will hear about it on this listserv. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Department of Justice Community Relations Service >>>>>>> - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward >>>>>>> - Acknowledge what has happened >>>>>>> - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation. >>>>>>> - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring. >>>>>>> - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past. >>>>>>> - Let's be patient. >>>>>>> - We all have to be able to listen. >>>>>>> - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act: >>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs >>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> >>>>>>> - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and >>>>>>> create resolution. >>>>>>> - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> COMMUNITY CONCERNS >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions >>>>>>> - police were reactive instead fo proactive >>>>>>> - lack of leadership from City Council >>>>>>> - we need better gun control in parks >>>>>>> - we need to learn how to get these statues down >>>>>>> - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part >>>>>>> of the meeting not a target of this meeting >>>>>>> - the county is part of the Cville community >>>>>>> - we need faith in rule of law >>>>>>> - police failed to protect our people >>>>>>> - wishing there was a way to remove privilege >>>>>>> - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands: >>>>>>> - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March >>>>>>> on Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de >>>>>>> Resistance. >>>>>>> - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now. >>>>>>> - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed >>>>>>> Redevelopment” from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of >>>>>>> Residents. >>>>>>> - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh. >>>>>>> - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s >>>>>>> disappearance, and commit to an expansion of the investigation. >>>>>>> - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to >>>>>>> send children into foster care. >>>>>>> - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized >>>>>>> police unit). >>>>>>> - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond >>>>>>> before their trial. >>>>>>> - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk. >>>>>>> - need affordable housing >>>>>>> - police need to apologize >>>>>>> - discriminatory foster care poliies >>>>>>> - militarization of police >>>>>>> - stop & frisk >>>>>>> - remove monuments >>>>>>> - resist white supremacy >>>>>>> - sage smith's family >>>>>>> - too few minority faces here >>>>>>> - want understanding >>>>>>> - call this a terrorist attack >>>>>>> - systemic ideal of race >>>>>>> - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said >>>>>>> and instead wrote "extend white privilege" >>>>>>> - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here >>>>>>> listening >>>>>>> - why were there no barricades on 4th street? >>>>>>> - lack of trust in government >>>>>>> - gun control >>>>>>> - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from >>>>>>> zero instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson >>>>>>> School a >>>>>>> few days after >>>>>>> - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting >>>>>>> - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is >>>>>>> unacceptable >>>>>>> - black women want to feel safe >>>>>>> - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods >>>>>>> according to online evidence >>>>>>> - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would >>>>>>> have opened fire >>>>>>> - how do we protect ourselves >>>>>>> - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state >>>>>>> level rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws >>>>>>> unless >>>>>>> specifically granted permission by the VA legislature >>>>>>> - white supremacists are still in town >>>>>>> - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky >>>>>>> - tired of calls for unity >>>>>>> - feel abandoned by federal government >>>>>>> - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID >>>>>>> laws, LGBT rights, etc) >>>>>>> - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a >>>>>>> menacing look on their face >>>>>>> - ask for resignations of city council and city manager >>>>>>> - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy" >>>>>>> - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville >>>>>>> too, because a refugee is affected >>>>>>> - free political prisoners >>>>>>> - investigation of police body cameras >>>>>>> - tear gas on Cville residents >>>>>>> - power to the people (w/ black power fist) >>>>>>> - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds" >>>>>>> - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect >>>>>>> - charge Richard Spencer >>>>>>> - call a terrorist a terrorist >>>>>>> - When will Kessler get charged? >>>>>>> - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate >>>>>>> - no justice >>>>>>> - police should have stop and frisked Nazis >>>>>>> - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the >>>>>>> way it should be >>>>>>> - want harsh punishments of the alt-right >>>>>>> - there is no affordable housing >>>>>>> - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search >>>>>>> - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA >>>>>>> not affordable >>>>>>> - no activities for black people >>>>>>> - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the >>>>>>> council meeting >>>>>>> - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up >>>>>>> - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of >>>>>>> the black community >>>>>>> - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a >>>>>>> Nation, Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> big was going to happen >>>>>>> - we need to make our history more accessible >>>>>>> - "each one, teach one" >>>>>>> - lack of police presence at minority events >>>>>>> - we're having to police ourselves >>>>>>> - what is the role of Civlle police? >>>>>>> - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of >>>>>>> desegregate >>>>>>> - our history is Vinegar Hill >>>>>>> - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge >>>>>>> - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed >>>>>>> - judge has blood on his hands >>>>>>> - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down" >>>>>>> - leadership should resign >>>>>>> - we should all vote differently >>>>>>> - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out >>>>>>> - this meeting is a farce; we need truth >>>>>>> - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue >>>>>>> last night? >>>>>>> - Mayor should resign >>>>>>> - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the >>>>>>> last city council meeting) >>>>>>> - give equal rights to blacks >>>>>>> - if you can't do it, we will >>>>>>> - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out" >>>>>>> but that didn't happen >>>>>>> - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi >>>>>>> symbols >>>>>>> - our divided country is week >>>>>>> - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people >>>>>>> - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back >>>>>>> - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the >>>>>>> police got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used >>>>>>> tear gas) >>>>>>> but they're not saying that anymore >>>>>>> - Trump = terrorist >>>>>>> - investigate Trump >>>>>>> - ISIS would not get a permit >>>>>>> - deny the next permit >>>>>>> - we need honesty and accountability >>>>>>> - we need to elect better people >>>>>>> - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead? this meeting >>>>>>> is too little & too late >>>>>>> - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved >>>>>>> - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our >>>>>>> streets >>>>>>> - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different >>>>>>> venue >>>>>>> - police faced the community not the KKK >>>>>>> - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police; >>>>>>> shameful on police >>>>>>> - no police presence at black churches and many other places >>>>>>> - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson >>>>>>> School meeting was much better >>>>>>> - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville >>>>>>> residents; there should be official support of such a program >>>>>>> - many people are terrorized >>>>>>> - get rid of monuments >>>>>>> - change happens within ourselves >>>>>>> - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's >>>>>>> giving away power >>>>>>> - drop charges on Veronica >>>>>>> - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City >>>>>>> Manager structure; our city is too big for that to work now >>>>>>> - there is police harassment >>>>>>> - there has been racism for a long time >>>>>>> - no affordable housing >>>>>>> - we black residents don't care about the statues >>>>>>> - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were >>>>>>> clear threats >>>>>>> - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is >>>>>>> following a similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq >>>>>>> - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your >>>>>>> email address >>>>>>> - the juvenile justice system is broken >>>>>>> - school to prison pipeline >>>>>>> - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too" >>>>>>> - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up >>>>>>> - we need new economics to build wealth >>>>>>> - no good jobs >>>>>>> - need a mindshift change in city council >>>>>>> - there have never been two black city council members at any >>>>>>> given time >>>>>>> - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally >>>>>>> - all investigators should be independent >>>>>>> - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station >>>>>>> alarms if there's an attack) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os >>>>>>> l...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> OSList mailing list >>>>>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>>>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>>>>> Past archives can be viewed here: http://www.mail-archive.com/os >>>>>> l...@lists.openspacetech.org >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Birgitt Williams >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> President & Senior Consultant of Dalar International Consultancy, Inc. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.dalarinternational.com >>>>> >>>>> Co-founder of the Extraordinary Leadership Network >>>>> http://www.extraordinaryleadershipnetwork.com >>>>> >>>>> Co-founder of the Genuine Contact™program and author of The Genuine >>>>> Contact Way: Nourishing a Culture of Leadership >>>>> http://www.genuinecontactway.com >>>>> >>>>> Co-owner of the Genuine Contact Co-owners Group Ltd. >>>>> http://www.genuinecontact.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Supporting leadership development for leading in a culture requiring >>>>> agility and flexibility in a performance environment of constant change.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Leadership development at your own pace? 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