It would not surprise me if Jesus had come to the conclusion that all organizations created by man are the work of the devil.

That could then have held him back from founding an institute certifying his first followers.

Greetings from Berlin where I mulled over all the certification organizations that I encountered in my life. They all contributed to the ossification of their victims and made a lot of money.

But then, wait a minute, I do remember taking part in a training for OD consultants and parish consultants back in the seventies of the last century in the last millenium. Folks attending were invited for a final day of certification after the training concluded (very complex training, including 5 ten day training sessions over 2 years, regional groups for gatherings between the blocks and prescribed hours of supervision by especially trained supervisors that were certified, of course, none other were accepted).

Now, the invitation to get certified was offered to all of us.
Some needed a certification to work with their skills in their organizations.
Others did not. I was one of them. Actually, there were 5 of us.
At first we felt it nice to have a free day.
But, I dont know how that came about but from my present stage of looking at stuff I am sure it was the Force of Selforganization that got us thinking about all 5 of us certifying each and all of the others, including oneself. Only if they passed the certification, of course. So we set out to come up with a process. We did this in open space (had not shown its vicious head yet in 1975) and had a wonderful time. We actually drew up a certification document and got two of the training staff to put their signature to it along with those of us five. This made it look gorgeous. I still have it. Its in German. I could dig it up in my archives if any of you would like to get a copy. As we 5 heard later, our collegial certification was enormously tougher than that offered by the training institute.

Have a great day wherever you are
mmp

Am 16.08.2019 um 19:45 schrieb Marai Kiele via OSList:


Am 14.08.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Mark Carmel via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:

Chris, thank you for your response.  However, an Empire is defined as an authoritarian organization of countries, or people, under single rule like the Roman empire. The chuch's first rule of becoming certified as high priest is that women are not allowed In.  We see how that worked out... That is not OS and is not what I recommend. So please do not misunderstand my intent. I am not calling for empire building or authoritarianism, but calling for organization of an Educational Institute to train and educate those who facilitate OST in the world of empire building WE all live in. If we leave it to mother nature to do it out of Spirit alone we could be waiting another 4,000 years.  How to prepare facilitators and participants to face the inevitable pushback from their own leaders (like now) or from leaders of empires once raw honesty is put out there is an advanced skill set.  One that will help or hurt outcomes. Chris, you are spot on to invoke the Devil. Because the Devil always attacks honesty that exposes the hidden, dishonest agendas of leaders who proudly open space only to crush those who are Too honest for their liking. Therein lies a significant learning moment to train facilitators in the ability to discern authenticity in the leadership before engaging. Dishonesty has become the new trend in management and leadership. Just look at the state of American politics and media coverage of it. The number one contraindiction as HO aptly defines it, in my experience is dishonest leadership. This must be discerned first, as only one of the teaching lessons for all future facilitators. Otherwise good, honest participants and their facilitators are given up to the devilish empire builders you describe.  Especially in the great
US of A democracy that has become Retaliation Nation.
Thanks again Chris!
Miss you having not seen you since Dulles.
Peace!
MC

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 10:05 AM Chris Corrigan <chris.corri...@gmail.com <mailto:chris.corri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    You do realize that Jesus never certified practitioners of
    Christianity, right? And that subsequent attempts to do so
    basically created a toxic blending of Church and Empire that
    contributed to mass amounts of suffering through incredibly toxic
    and psychopathic uses of power and control for most of the last
    1700 years?

    And I say that as a Christian who works with churches.

    Mark, just open space.  That’s what the world wants more of. It
    does not want or need more  people running around saying they are
    certified to open space.  It truly doesn’t care. Your credentials
    mean nothing if you aren’t actually opening space.  And if you are
    opening space, no one will care what your credentials are.  The
    best OST meetings I’ve ever been a part of were facilitated by
    people who had never done them before.  They cared about the
    participants, they took care to follow the instructions, they took
    nothing for granted, and they learned a lot about themselves and
    others.  Some of these people were 14 years old.

    Coincidently, some of these people are also the best Christians I
    have ever met, too, for the same reasons.

    Just do the work and share your learning and get better at it.
    That’s how I learned, that’s how I support others and that’s my
    invitation to you. Resist the devilish temptation to build an empire.

    Chris





    On Aug 14, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Mark Carmel via OSList
    <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
    <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:

    Fascinating conversation. This is exactly why we need a
    certification-like program and an organizational structure for
    the future if we want to train people in the finer points of
    sustaining open space interventions over time as Chris has done.
    There is a lot more to it than just throwing out an invitation
    and opening up the market place. It is interesting to me that
    from the most seasoned open space masters the idea was instantly
    shot down, saying...we discussed that already... Now that is not
    what an open space facilitator normally does right? Shoot down
    other people's ideas. The world has evolved into one that
    respects credentials. Interestingly the ones who spoke the
    strongest against certification have already given themselves
    nice fancy titles. Which is wonderful.  Because credentials
    really do matter. Right now open space facilitators must give
    themself their own title and otherwise have no backing whatsoever
    to lend credibility to their self given titles. When you talk
    about overcoming the resistance of executives and with the
    retaliation nation nature of things now (look at Hong Kong) it
    makes sense to put some structure to the educational
credentialing of OSTsters from apprentice  to Master to mentor. In terms of VISION and MISSION and VALUES and STRATEGY, why is it
    that we facilitators want to apply that same organizational
    structure for ALL other organizations but resist doing the same
    for OUR work, to create OUR organization... What IS our
    vision...to hope the world magically organizes around OST... or
    to make it happen through a viable 1,000 year vision.  In his
    great book, Leadership Is,  Harrison is spot on to define OST as
    the ONE way for leaders to be a caretaker of the Spirit.  We must
    not be naive to believe that leaders will not crush the Spirit
    once it emerges in Open Space. This requires highly advanced
    training to be able to navigate the process over decades of
    implementation.  ALL great decisions require great leadership. If
    OST ever gets an organization, I hope this idea will be
    considered by its leaders or of course someone else will do it or
    it will not be done. In some ways, or all ways, Harrison has
    created a new religion of Spirit and I hope that an
    organizational structure WILL be created kinda like that other
    dude who started out with 12 disciples.
    Peace,
    Mark Carmel

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        Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:25:41 -0400
        From: Chris Kloth <chris.kl...@got2change.com
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        Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
        middle of
        a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
        that is
        pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.

        That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
        triggered a
        powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
        were to
        start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
        thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
        made it
        clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
        workplace
        issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
        could be
        addressed in such a setting.

        I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
        labor issues
        would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
        requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
        asked him to
        listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
        subject.

        No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
        round
        and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at
        me big
        time. I will admit I was nervous.

        The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
        frustration, 30
        minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
        best jobs n
        the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
        end of the
        second round the company president faxed from the other site
        that
        their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!

        The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
        and optimism.

-- Shalom,

        Chris Kloth
        ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        254 South Merkle Road
        Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        ph 614-239-1336
        fax 614-237-2347
        www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>

        Think globally. Act locally.


        Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>:

        > Hey Chris,
        >
        > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear
        your
        > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
        mentioned is still
        > active!
        >
        > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
        >
        >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
        the non-profit
        >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
        >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
        multiple sites.
        >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
        you recommend for
        >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
        >
        > Thank you so much Chris!
        >
        > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
        recommendations for
        > executing OS cross-site, please do!
        >
        > All the best,
        > Jake
        > ________________
        >
        > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again, and
        > you will be free of problems.
        >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        >
        >
        > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
        <chris.kl...@got2change.com <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>>
        > wrote:
        >
        >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
        division of
        >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
        100% of the
        >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
        >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
        midwest. We had
        >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
        communicate what
        >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
        the process
        >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
        >> structure.
        >>
        >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
        >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
        early childhood
        >> care and education to very different types of children,
        resulting in a
        >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
        plan for the
        >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
        now almost
        >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
        principles of OST.
        >>
        >>
        >> --
        >> Shalom,
        >>
        >> Chris Kloth
        >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        >> 254 South Merkle Road
        >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        >> ph 614-239-1336
        >> fax 614-237-2347
        >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        >>
        >> Think globally. Act locally.
        >>
        >>
        >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
        <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
        >>
        >> > Hi all,
        >> >
        >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
        vision statement
        >> or
        >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
        >> recommendations?
        >> >
        >> > Thanks!
        >> >
        >> > Much love as always,
        >> > Jake
        >> >
        >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
        person! :)
        >> > ________________
        >> >
        >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again, and
        >> > you will be free of problems.
        >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        >> >
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
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        Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 17:57:37 -0400
        From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowe...@gmail.com
        <mailto:hhowe...@gmail.com>>
        To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
                <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>
        Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
        Planning?
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        Beautiful! Thank you Chris!!

        ho

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        <mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org>] On Behalf Of
        Chris Kloth via OSList
        Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 5:26 PM
        To: jacob.yea...@gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>
        Cc: Chris Kloth; World wide Open Space Technology email list
        Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
        Planning?

        Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in the
        middle of
        a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
        that is
        pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.

        That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
        triggered a
        powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
        were to
        start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me that he
        thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
        made it
        clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
        workplace
        issues would probably come up and that there was no way these
        could be
        addressed in such a setting.

        I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
        labor issues
        would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
        requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
        asked him to
        listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
        subject.

        No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the first
        round
        and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled at
        me big
        time. I will admit I was nervous.

        The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
        frustration, 30
        minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
        best jobs n
        the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
        end of the
        second round the company president faxed from the other site
        that
        their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!

        The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy, excitement,
        and optimism.

-- Shalom,

        Chris Kloth
        ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        254 South Merkle Road
        Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        ph 614-239-1336
        fax 614-237-2347
        www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>

        Think globally. Act locally.


        Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>:

        > Hey Chris,
        >
        > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to hear
        your
        > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
        mentioned is still
        > active!
        >
        > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
        >
        >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
        the non-profit
        >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
        >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
        multiple sites.
        >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
        you recommend
        for
        >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
        >
        > Thank you so much Chris!
        >
        > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
        recommendations for
        > executing OS cross-site, please do!
        >
        > All the best,
        > Jake
        > ________________
        >
        > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again, and
        > you will be free of problems.
        >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        >
        >
        > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
        <chris.kl...@got2change.com <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>>
        > wrote:
        >
        >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
        division of
        >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included virtually
        100% of the
        >> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
        >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
        midwest. We had
        >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
        communicate what
        >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
        the process
        >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic organization
        >> structure.
        >>
        >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
        >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
        early childhood
        >> care and education to very different types of children,
        resulting in a
        >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
        plan for the
        >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
        now almost
        >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
        principles of OST.
        >>
        >>
        >> --
        >> Shalom,
        >>
        >> Chris Kloth
        >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        >> 254 South Merkle Road
        >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        >> ph 614-239-1336
        >> fax 614-237-2347
        >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        >>
        >> Think globally. Act locally.
        >>
        >>
        >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
        <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
        >>
        >> > Hi all,
        >> >
        >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
        vision
        statement
        >> or
        >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
        >> recommendations?
        >> >
        >> > Thanks!
        >> >
        >> > Much love as always,
        >> > Jake
        >> >
        >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
        person! :)
        >> > ________________
        >> >
        >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again,
        and
        >> > you will be free of problems.
        >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        >> >
        >>
        >>
        >>
        >>
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        Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 15:23:21 -0700
        From: Peggy Holman <pe...@peggyholman.com
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        I?ll add another strategic planning story to the mix. In the
        1999, I did a project with the Washington State Arts
        Commission to create a strategic plan that was widely
        embraced by artists and arts organizations all over the
        state. The commission?s continued funding was riding on success.

        We hosted 20 Open Space convenings around the state over 6
        weeks. The first and last were statewide. The rest were
        3-hour sessions in towns as small as Twisp and cities as
        large as Seattle. In the end, the arts commission created a
        plan that was not only widely embraced, but two years later
        during an economic downturn, the funding held when other
        departments were cut because of the widespread support.

        When we started, the commission members were convinced large
        and small, east and west, rural and urban would all be at war
        with each other. In fact, they found synergies and ways to
        partner.

        A bit more of the story is here:
        http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/
        <http://peggyholman.com/a-conversation-about-the-arts/>.

        Peggy




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        > On Aug 12, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Chris Kloth via OSList
        <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
        >
        > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in
        the middle of a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam
        Foss' Ted Talk) that is pretty consuming. I know I have the
        file somewhere.
        >
        > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
        triggered a powerful memory. When I got to my site the night
        before we were to start a very resistant top executive made
        it clear to me that he thought this approach a ridiculous
        waste of time. He also made it clear that he was sure labor
        issues over wages and other workplace issues would probably
        come up and that there was no way these could be addressed in
        such a setting.
        >
        > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
        labor issues would probably come up if it mattered to those
        in the room and requested that he trust me that it would be
        okay. I also asked him to listen to the workers talk and
        resist taking charge of the subject.
        >
        > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the
        first round and was attended by almost everyone at my site.
        He scowled at me big time. I will admit I was nervous.
        >
        > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
        frustration, 30 minutes of "We are all in this together and
        still have the best jobs n the valley" and 30 minutes of
        developing strategies. By the end of the second round the
        company president faxed from the other site that their ideas
        were all valuable and could be implemented!
        >
        > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy,
        excitement, and optimism.
        >
        > --
        > Shalom,
        >
        > Chris Kloth
        > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        > 254 South Merkle Road
        > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        > ph 614-239-1336
        > fax 614-237-2347
        > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        <http://www.got2change.com/>
        >
        > Think globally. Act locally.
        >
        >
        > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>>:
        >
        >> Hey Chris,
        >>
        >> Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to
        hear your
        >> experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
        mentioned is still
        >> active!
        >>
        >> If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
        >>
        >>   - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum and
        the non-profit
        >>   partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
        >>   - I am an internal consultant, and our organization has
        multiple sites.
        >>   I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What do
        you recommend for
        >>   executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
        >>
        >> Thank you so much Chris!
        >>
        >> Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
        recommendations for
        >> executing OS cross-site, please do!
        >>
        >> All the best,
        >> Jake
        >> ________________
        >>
        >> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again, and
        >> you will be free of problems.
        >> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/
        <http://www.robert-adams.info/>>
        >>
        >>
        >> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
        <chris.kl...@got2change.com
        <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>
        <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com
        <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>>>
        >> wrote:
        >>
        >>> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
        division of
        >>> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included
        virtually 100% of the
        >>> employees of the new organization in two geographic locations
        >>> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
        midwest. We had
        >>> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
        communicate what
        >>> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
        the process
        >>> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
        organization
        >>> structure.
        >>>
        >>> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
        >>> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
        early childhood
        >>> care and education to very different types of children,
        resulting in a
        >>> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
        plan for the
        >>> first two years of their partnership. That partnership is
        now almost
        >>> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
        principles of OST.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> --
        >>> Shalom,
        >>>
        >>> Chris Kloth
        >>> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        >>> 254 South Merkle Road
        >>> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        >>> ph 614-239-1336
        >>> fax 614-237-2347
        >>> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        >>>
        >>> Think globally. Act locally.
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
        <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
        >>>
        >>> > Hi all,
        >>> >
        >>> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission and/or
        vision statement
        >>> or
        >>> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it go? Any
        >>> recommendations?
        >>> >
        >>> > Thanks!
        >>> >
        >>> > Much love as always,
        >>> > Jake
        >>> >
        >>> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
        person! :)
        >>> > ________________
        >>> >
        >>> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
        shine once again, and
        >>> > you will be free of problems.
        >>> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        >>> >
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
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        >>>
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        Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 07:54:31 -0400
        From: Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>
        Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
                <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
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        Subject: Re: [OSList] OST for Mission/Vision and Strategic
        Planning?
        Message-ID:
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        Thank you everyone for your replies! They are very, very helpful.

        I have contracted with an internal client who is interested
        in using OST.
        His team is cross-site, so these suggestions and experiences are
        invaluable. It really is about experimenting, identifying
        what works, and
        sharing my experience with others to move the work forward.
        Oh, and
        trusting the people. :)

        Thanks again!

        Much love,
        Jake
        ________________

        When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once
        again, and
        you will be free of problems.
         - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>


        On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM Chris Kloth
        <chris.kl...@got2change.com <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>>
        wrote:

        > Jake, I hope to get back to you by this weekend. I am in
        the middle of
        > a project with Prosecutor Impact (see Adam Foss' Ted Talk)
        that is
        > pretty consuming. I know I have the file somewhere.
        >
        > That said, Michael's comment about what's on the wall
        triggered a
        > powerful memory. When I got to my site the night before we
        were to
        > start a very resistant top executive made it clear to me
        that he
        > thought this approach a ridiculous waste of time. He also
        made it
        > clear that he was sure labor issues over wages and other
        workplace
        > issues would probably come up and that there was no way
        these could be
        > addressed in such a setting.
        >
        > I thanked him for sharing his concerns and observed that
        labor issues
        > would probably come up if it mattered to those in the room and
        > requested that he trust me that it would be okay. I also
        asked him to
        > listen to the workers talk and resist taking charge of the
        subject.
        >
        > No surprise that the topic came up at both sites in the
        first round
        > and was attended by almost everyone at my site. He scowled
        at me big
        > time. I will admit I was nervous.
        >
        > The 90 minute session went roughly like this: 30 of
        frustration, 30
        > minutes of "We are all in this together and still have the
        best jobs n
        > the valley" and 30 minutes of developing strategies. By the
        end of the
        > second round the company president faxed from the other
        site that
        > their ideas were all valuable and could be implemented!
        >
        > The rest of the day was amazingly full of energy,
        excitement, and optimism.
        >
        > --
        > Shalom,
        >
        > Chris Kloth
        > ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        > 254 South Merkle Road
        > Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        > ph 614-239-1336
        > fax 614-237-2347
        > www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        >
        > Think globally. Act locally.
        >
        >
        > Quoting Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com
        <mailto:jacob.yea...@gmail.com>>:
        >
        > > Hey Chris,
        > >
        > > Thanks so much for your response! It's very helpful to
        hear your
        > > experience, and it's awesome how the partnership you
        mentioned is still
        > > active!
        > >
        > > If you don't mind, I have a few follow-up questions for you:
        > >
        > >    - What were the themes for the OSs with Carbarundum
        and the non-profit
        > >    partnership? It seems the groups covered a lot of ground!
        > >    - I am an internal consultant, and our organization
        has multiple
        > sites.
        > >    I love that you facilitated an OS across sites! What
        do you recommend
        > for
        > >    executing an OS when there are multiple sites?
        > >
        > > Thank you so much Chris!
        > >
        > > Also, if anyone else on the list wants to share
        recommendations for
        > > executing OS cross-site, please do!
        > >
        > > All the best,
        > > Jake
        > > ________________
        > >
        > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
        once again, and
        > > you will be free of problems.
        > >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        > >
        > >
        > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:46 PM Chris Kloth
        <chris.kl...@got2change.com <mailto:chris.kl...@got2change.com>
        > >
        > > wrote:
        > >
        > >> Ralph Copleman, Barbara Bunker, and I used OST with a
        division of
        > >> Carbarundum that had just been sold. It included
        virtually 100% of the
        > >> employees of the new organization in two geographic
        locations
        > >> simultaneously... one in the eastern US and one in the
        midwest. We had
        > >> ti use dial-up computer access and fax machines to
        communicate what
        > >> was going on at each location each round! By the end of
        the process
        > >> there was a new mission, vision, values and basic
        organization
        > >> structure.
        > >>
        > >> I used OST as part of the process of forming a collaborative
        > >> partnership among 4 nonprofit organizations providing
        early childhood
        > >> care and education to very different types of children,
        resulting in a
        > >> mission, vision, and values, as well as articulating a
        plan for the
        > >> first two years of their partnership. That partnership
        is now almost
        > >> 25 years old. It's members have internalized the
        principles of OST.
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> --
        > >> Shalom,
        > >>
        > >> Chris Kloth
        > >> ChangeWorks of the Heartland
        > >> 254 South Merkle Road
        > >> Bexley, OH 43209-1801
        > >> ph 614-239-1336
        > >> fax 614-237-2347
        > >> www.got2change.com <http://www.got2change.com/>
        > >>
        > >> Think globally. Act locally.
        > >>
        > >>
        > >> Quoting Jake Yeager via OSList
        <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
        <mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>>:
        > >>
        > >> > Hi all,
        > >> >
        > >> > Has anyone ever used OST 1) to develop a mission
        and/or vision
        > statement
        > >> or
        > >> > 2) to conduct strategic planning? If so, how did it
        go? Any
        > >> recommendations?
        > >> >
        > >> > Thanks!
        > >> >
        > >> > Much love as always,
        > >> > Jake
        > >> >
        > >> > P.S. Hope to see you at WOSonOS so I can thank you in
        person! :)
        > >> > ________________
        > >> >
        > >> > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
        shine once again,
        > and
        > >> > you will be free of problems.
        > >> >  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
        > >> >
        > >>
        > >>
        > >>
        > >>
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        Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 11:11:40 -0400
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