Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to organizing them?
Thanks On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com> wrote: > Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread. > > After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we > adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will > propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist > meaning-making and pattern recognition. Then, I will invite participants to > vote on the themes that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 > get turned into OKRs using the iterative sprints. > > This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow better, > and it requires less facilitation. > > I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the outcomes. > I may also incorporate that. > > Thanks again! > > ________________ > > When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and > you will be free of problems. > - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum <i...@practical-agile.com> > wrote: > >> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the >> outcomes. >> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic, >> convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results. >> You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if >> you want to guide participants towards the OKRs concept. That said with a >> invitation to favor the more open and the less prescriptive approach. >> >> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is to >> prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os on the left >> side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the right. >> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were invited to >> place their Os and KRs in the board and share what they found passion and >> responsibility for to take forward. >> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make these >> initiatives happen. >> >> >> >> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList < >> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >> >>> No... If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that >>> would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But >>> specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, >>> because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what >>> will come out of it and how results will be used. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList < >>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: >>> >>> Reviewing again this article >>> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html> >>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space. >>> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating >>> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think? >>> ________________ >>> >>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and >>> you will be free of problems. >>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean. >>>> ________________ >>>> >>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, >>>> and you will be free of problems. >>>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you >>>>> have provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced >>>>> practitioners. >>>>> >>>>> Some info: >>>>> >>>>> - I have one day for the event >>>>> - There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP >>>>> - Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how >>>>> you measure your success >>>>> - We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of >>>>> the day: so, it's a tight time-frame >>>>> >>>>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the >>>>> sponsor to switch up the schedule too much. >>>>> >>>>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact >>>>> training for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. >>>>> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and >>>>> will explore the many options provided on this thread for future events. >>>>> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per >>>>> Michael Pannwitz's comment. :) >>>>> >>>>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence" >>>>> design: >>>>> >>>>> - After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10 >>>>> Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes >>>>> rather >>>>> than voting on them. >>>>> - I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in >>>>> parallel. The group members will be able to choose which theme(s) they >>>>> want >>>>> to refine (or not) in a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same >>>>> setup with key results. >>>>> >>>>> Learning as I go as we all do. :) >>>>> >>>>> Much love, >>>>> Jake >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________ >>>>> >>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, >>>>> and you will be free of problems. >>>>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann < >>>>> tho...@openspaceconsulting.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Jake >>>>>> >>>>>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the >>>>>> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there >>>>>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but >>>>>> should be identified/agreed on in the OST? >>>>>> >>>>>> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well >>>>>> thought through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST >>>>>> are not fully understood. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good night from Sweden >>>>>> >>>>>> Thomas Herrmann >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *Från:* OSList <oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org> *För *Jake >>>>>> Yeager via OSList >>>>>> *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57 >>>>>> *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email list < >>>>>> oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> >>>>>> *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <jacob.yea...@gmail.com> >>>>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results >>>>>> (OKRs)? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use >>>>>> the 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and >>>>>> then 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little >>>>>> hairy if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3. >>>>>> Guess I could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if >>>>>> consent >>>>>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final >>>>>> call on the top 3 if the group is split. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and much love, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jake >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, >>>>>> and you will be free of problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> Past archives can be viewed here: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org >> >> -- >> Ilan Kirschenbaum - Co-Founder & Agile coach At Practical Agile LTD. >> Twitter: @kirschi_ >> Phone # +972-54-6620348 >> website: www.practical-agile.com >> >> <http://www.practical-agile.com> >> <http://practical-agile.com> >> > -- ________________ When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems. - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
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