On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Charles Bennett wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote: > >> >> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote: >> >>> yeah - Turley states that just because Bush and Cheney got lawyers >>> to >>> write memos claiming their techniques were legal, doesn't make what >>> they did, legal. >> >> I went back and viewed the clip yet again that you cited and he >> doesn't address the issue. >> -- > > > Let's say for a sec that the law does require it. > > The war crimes in Germany (notice slick godwin avoidance) made the > point that knowledge of a war crime from a position of power and a > failure to act > was also punishable. Acquiescence to a war crime can be a war crime > if you were in a position to stop it. > > The oversight's JOB was to know what the CIA was doing.
yep! a LOT of people did the wrong thing ... it's probably what will keep people saying "let's move forward" k > > > Assume that the CIA covered it's butt by explicitly telling oversight > what was going on. After all, they are not stupid enough to do > something like that without someone else to blame it on. > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html >> > > Since > > "The lawmakers who held oversight roles during the period included > Pelosi and Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) and Sens. Bob Graham (D-Fla.) > and John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), as well as Rep. Porter J. Goss > (R-Fla.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan)." > > ""The briefer was specifically asked if the methods were tough > enough," said a U.S. official who witnessed the exchange." > > "And the reaction in the room was not just approval, but > encouragement." > > specifically, > > "House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of > the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques > interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk." > > Note. I am not excusing anything. All I'm saying is that > politically, opening that can of worms is not something the Dem's are > going to be willing to do no matter how loud or demanding the left > gets. > > It's one thing to throw out retoric about how 'horrible' the Bush'ies > were. It's a whole nother thing to bring a full hearing where the > "U.S. Official that witnessed the exchange" > will get to point at Pelosi and say. "We told her everything and she > asked if it was tough enough?" > > > My guess is that you are going to have a hard time getting Pelosi and > the rest of the folks that were on the oversight group to agree to > anything that resembles a hearing. > If they do it all goes public. > > I'd be willing to bet my lunch money that someone has already made > that completely clear to the hill and Pelosi. > > > =c= > > > > > _______________________________________________ > OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] > http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters > List hosted at http://cat5.org/ _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
