On Jan 19, 2009, at 3:36 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:

>
> On Jan 19, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Kevin Callahan wrote:
>>
>>> yeah - Turley states that just because Bush and Cheney got lawyers  
>>> to
>>> write memos claiming their techniques were legal, doesn't make what
>>> they did, legal.
>>
>> I went back and viewed the clip yet again that you cited and he
>> doesn't address the issue.
>
> Turley has done probably a dozen segments on this topic
>
> just do a youtube search and I'm sure there's one where he addresses
> this point specifically

There may be one among the dozens that a youtube search for Jonathan  
Turley turns up but they are all about 6 minutes long and I listened  
the the 4 most likely ones. He simply didn't address the 'advice of  
counsel' defense in those. BTW he  did make it clear that when he  
says  that Holden must address the administrations 'war crimes' he  
means that as a moral as opposed to a legal imperative.

Google for "advice of counsel defense." You will see that the issue is  
complicated.

--
The fundamental delusion of humanity is to suppose that I am here and  
you are out there
  -Yasutani Roshi, Zen master (1885-1973)




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