On 30-Mar-2009, at 15:12, Arno Hautala wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 16:50, LuKreme <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 30-Mar-2009, at 00:54, Kevin Callahan wrote: >>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/27/crabs.memorypain/index.html >> >> Erm... don't ALL animals feel pain? >> >> And plants too? > > I think they all "experience" pain, in that it triggers a response; > flee, defend, attack, etc. > This study identified the threshold of pain (electric current) > required to cause a crab to leave its shell. The researchers then > applied a level of current beneath the threshold and observed that > when offered a new shell, only those crabs that had been previously > shocked sought out the new shell. This demonstrates that the crabs > remembered the unpleasantness and even though they might otherwise > endure it, were compelled to seek to avoid the pain. > > I'd be very surprised if plants were found to experience anything more > than a basic "stimulus and response" mechanism.
And how would YOU define pain other than a stimulus and response? > Won't someone think of the crustaceans!? I will! With butter and lemon! -- Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have. _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
