On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:40 PM, Lawrence Sica wrote:

>
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Jared ''Danger'' Earle wrote:
>
>> On 31 Aug 2009, at 16:40, Charles Bennett wrote:
>>> I'm not arguing against reform.   I'm arguing that the timing is
>>> wrong
>>> to make major government level changes without
>>> trying everything else first.
>>
>> Let's suggest that this is your one big chance at HCR, because it
>> won't happen under the Republicans. If you don't do it now, you've  
>> got
>> a 16-year wait, effectively. Are you prepared to wait 16 years?
>>
>> What's the worst that can happen if HCR is passed? And don't say
>> you'll go broke, because you won't.
>
> The irony is the Nixon plan, a repub, would be rejected by today's
> repubs as socialism as well.  I wish we had the days back when the
> parties could talk and not just have one go "NO NO NO NO".

On this we agree.    I read once that Reagan and Tipp O'neill would  
give each other partisan hell all day then go have drinks after "work"
and talk about how they were going to work together to actually get  
something done.

I'd like to see that again.

I would really like to see reform.  The system actually needs it.

It's like it's all a game on both sides.   Neither cares about the  
good of the country, they care about reelection, at best and their PAC  
supporters at worst.

I'm actually disgusted with them all.

=c=







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