No, in my never to be humble opinion, it is not much different. Some would argue there is a difference between an activity such as sorting silver ware and cone sorting because one is recognizable task (taken out of its usual context) and the other is totally contrived task (at least I've never seen spontaneous cone stacking!), but I maintain that if the client finds no value in the activity then from a therapeutic perspective there isn't much difference.
Terrianne Ron Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED], now.com> wrote: Hey Terrianne: I love the Canadian Model of Occupational Performance! Thanks for sharing that definition from the Enabling Occupation book!! A great resource for ALL OT's!! Continuing on with questions. In the context that we are discussing, is sorting silverware any different than sorting cones/pegs? I FULLY understand that if a patient has a true goal of sorting silverware of if sorting silverware is a subset of a higher level task (making a meal) and that patient has difficulty sorting, then this is appropriate. But anythign else seems like cones, just a little more shiny . Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Terrianne Jones Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 To: OTlist@OTnow.com Subj: [OTlist] Occupational Deprivation TJ> Hi Ron and others- TJ> I've been lurking and decided to jump in with the mention of occupational deprivation, and TJ> your question Ron about assumptions with persons who cannot indicate they are truly engaging TJ> in occupation. This question almost brings occupation to a philosophical level. If TJ> occupations are are defined as activities of everyday life, named, organized and given value TJ> and meaning by individuals and a culture (Law, Polatajko, &Townsend, 1997, p. 32), then can TJ> we really ever know if a person is engaging in occupation if they cannot tell us or somehow TJ> indicate the value of the engagement? In my opinion, we cannot, and thats ok. Sometimes the TJ> best we can offer our clients who cannot tell us whether or not they value an activity as an TJ> occupation is an enjoyable experience that meets some physical or sensory need and supports TJ> their overall wellbeing. But I don't think we can call this occupation. According to the OT TJ> practice frame work, while occupation is the goal and main TJ> modality of the OT, there is also room when appropriate for purposeful actives (ie, sorting TJ> silverware) if they enable participation in other aspects of daily life. TJ> Terrianne TJ> Occupation is so subjective. TJ> Ron Carson wrote: Man, you write at an advanced level!! I THINK I TJ> understand what you are TJ> saying but if my response is way off base let me know. TJ> Occupational deprivation is a common age-associate malady. I see it TJ> everyday in my practice. But, IF a person is unable to verbalize TJ> (vocally or non-vocally) the meaning and worth of an engaged activity, TJ> are we justified in assuming they are engaged in occupation? TJ> I understand about being isolated. I work alone and have for several TJ> years. The OTlist is about the only place where I can freely exchange TJ> ideas. I wish more subscribers would feel the same! TJ> Ron TJ> ----- Original Message ----- TJ> From: Joan Riches TJ> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 TJ> To: OTlist@OTnow.com TJ> Subj: [OTlist] Sorting Silverware? JR>> Well - if occupation is what people do and occupation is idiosyncratic to JR>> the person, then meaning seems to have many different levels. People at this JR>> level certainly have emotions - and those emotions are often mitigated by a JR>> sense of doing. Certainly we need the concept of occupational deprivation to JR>> comprehend behaviour changes when opportunities 'to do' are provided. JR>> Thank you to you. The list has been such a source of professional JR>> connection. TJ> -- TJ> Options? TJ> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com TJ> Archive? TJ> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com TJ> ************************************************************************************** TJ> Enroll in Boston University's post-professional Master of Science for OTs Online. Gain the TJ> skills and credentials to propel your career. TJ> www.otdegree.com/otn TJ> ************************************************************************************** TJ> TJ> --------------------------------- TJ> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. TJ> Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com ************************************************************************************** Enroll in Boston University's post-professional Master of Science for OTs Online. Gain the skills and credentials to propel your career. www.otdegree.com/otn ************************************************************************************** --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. -- Options? www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com Archive? www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com ************************************************************************************** Enroll in Boston University's post-professional Master of Science for OTs Online. Gain the skills and credentials to propel your career. www.otdegree.com/otn **************************************************************************************