Chris, you bring up very good and valued points and that's a great story
about  your nurse friend. I think it also highlights that EACH and every
OT  makes  an  impact. I guess what really matters is the type of impact
being made! Now, let me TRY to answer your questions.

It  seems  to me that as aides become better trained through experience,
they  tend  to  make  equipment  recommendations  which  are designed to
improved  safety  and independence with basic self-care. However, I also
find  that  these  equipment  recommendations  are not what I recommend.
Also,  my  home health agency has a very low utilization rate for aides.
In fact, I have a patient now where the LPN is doing bathing.

When I say that OT has no unique or highly valued role in home health, I
am  primarily  referring  to  OTHERS'  perceptions  of OT. To be sure, I
STRONGLY  believe  that  in  home  health  OT,  when  practiced  from an
occupation-based  approach,  is the premier profession. But, and this is
quite   unfortunate,   I  think  OT  has  pigeonholed  itself  into  the
upper-extremity role and in my experience, VERY few people are homebound
because  of  upper-extremity  dysfunction.  But, there are problems when
practicing OT from an occupation-based perspective.

I've previously written that a true occupation-based approach may focus
treatment  on  mobility-related  daily  occupations.  Patient's want and
often  need  to  be  able  to  sit  to stand, ambulate and perform daily
occupations  with very little assistance from others. Thus, my treatment
focuses  on  these  things.  BUT,  this approaches encroaches on what is
typically  PT's  domain.  And for all the readers on this list who think
the profession of PT is our "friend", try stepping on their professional
toes  and  you  see  just  how protective and reactive they can be. And,
there's  nothing  wrong  with  that,  in fact OT should be the same way.
Every  PTA  in  my  home health agency has complained to the PT about my
treatments.

One  PTA  was  highly  agitated  because I did not ask her opinion about
getting  a  patient  a  knee walker. The patient was supposed to be non-
weightbearing but was burning herself while cooking from her wheelchair.
So,  we  talked about a knee walker and I picked one up from a local DME
and  trialled  the  patient in her home. She loved it so I contacted the
MD. He initially refused an order but I later found out this was because
he  didn't  have any knowledge of the equipment. The patient talked with
the  MD  and  after  he  literally  went  to  the  DME and looked at the
equipment, he said "sure".

In  retrospect,  I  should have at least talked with the PTA but in 100%
honest, it never even crossed my mind. I am used to working on my own in
private practice and not talking with other professionals about mobility
decisions.  Once, I was informed of the "problem" with the PTA, I called
her about my decision and she was better, at least on the outside.

So,  there  are no easy answers or solutions. The entire "thing" is very
confusing to me. Home health is SUPPOSED to be about making people safer
and  more  independent  in  their homes. This is EXACTLY what OT is also
supposed to do. However, there seems to be a BIG disconnect between home
health  and  OT.  Perhaps, the sad reality is that home health is really
about  making  money  and  OT, at least my flavor of OT, isn't exactly a
productivity boon.

It  seems  to  me that PT is very accustomed to seeing almost every home
health  patient  for doing mindless and unskilled therapeutic exercises.
These visits are easy for the PT, patient and make lots of money for the
home   health   agency.  I  frequently  d/c  patients  who  are  totally
independent in their homes and PT will stay on for weeks and weeks. This
of  course,  brings in big money for the HH agency. It's almost like the
PT's  goals  revolve  around  the 60 day episode of care rather than the
patient's actual needs.

Wow, sorry for the long response!!

Ron

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Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com



----- Original Message -----
From: cmnahrw...@aol.com <cmnahrw...@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
Subj: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

cac> Ron,

cac> Are you saying that PT, nursing, and nursing aides is working on 
cac> increased independence in clients' occupations?  Or does it appear that 
cac> they are addressing the issues by completing them for the patient?  
cac> Perhaps it would be wise to have a tag along day with these disciplines 
cac> to create a team approarch.  I think one of the best things a home OT 
cac> can do is become friends with the home aides because they can help with 
cac> the needed correct repetiion of your treatment interventions outside of 
cac> formal therapy time.

cac> You know Ron,  I once thought like you in regards to the perception of 
cac> OT in the setting in which I worked "OT
cac> has  no  TRULY  unique  and  HIGHLY  valued role", but there was a time 
cac> in which I stopped listening to that unproductive self talk, and 
cac> decided to put all of my efforts into the clients.  I learned a few 
cac> things in the past five years since changing my attitude and to help to 
cac> chage the culture of a department a) respect is dependent on the hard 
cac> work you put into your clients b) constant continuuing education and 
cac> inservicing to the staff has helped change perceptions c) lowering my 
cac> ego by helping out with toileting and bowel accident clean ups instead 
cac> of calling the nurse and "running" has helped to build a more team 
cac> approach and provides an opportunity to share important information d) 
cac> the better I know the nursing and therapy staff on a personal level the 

cac> more they learn about OT.

cac> A few months ago I had my friend and collegue Pat a nurse talk to me 
cac> about how her opinion of OT has changed in the past few years.  She 
cac> admitted that she never really had a clear grasp on what we did because 
cac> she never got the opportunity to see us in action when she worked in 
cac> home care.  But when she transitioned to the rehab unit she was 
cac> outstounded by the the reality of what we worked on.  She regrets that 
cac> she did not have that knowledge prior and how that could of helped many 
cac> patients in the home therapy setting.  She told me that she once 
cac> thought physical therapy was the "go to therapy", but now she 
cac> understands how imperative OT is to the recovery of a client.  I now 
cac> get constant phone calls from Pat and the other nursing staff about 
cac> certain things they see when they are helping clients with their 
cac> morning ADLs and how they want my advise to deal with the problems.  We 
cac> then often work together to come up with a solution.  Looking back at 
cac> my career so far I learned it really was not the other hospital staff 
cac> that devalued OT but in reality it was I whom came to hate what I was 
cac> doing because my focus and passion was on myself and not on the client.

cac> Chris Nahrwold MS, OTR

cac> -----Original Message-----
cac> From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
cac> To: Brent Cheyne <OTlist@OTnow.com>
cac> Sent: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 8:41 pm
cac> Subject: Re: [OTlist] hello c
cac> ompany...it's misery calling!

cac> Hello Brent:

cac> The  question  of  home  health  being  the  best  practice  setting  is
cac> complicated.

cac> In  a perfect world, I say unequivocally "yes", but in the real world, I
cac> say  "no".  It  seems to me that in home health, like other settings, OT
cac> has  no  TRULY  unique  and  HIGHLY  valued role. There seems to be very
cac> little that OT does which isn't already covered by either PT, nursing or
cac> the aide.

cac> Ron

cac> --
cac> Ron Carson MHS, OT
cac> www.OTnow.com

cac> ----- Original Message -----
cac> From: Brent Cheyne <brentche...@yahoo.com>
cac> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009
cac> To:   OTlist@OTnow.com <OTlist@OTnow.com>
cac> Subj: [OTlist] hello company...it's misery calling!

BC>> RON:   I related so well to your well written response to Ilene 
cac> (Message
BC>> 4,2/21/09),  I  have  a similar history to you and worked in the 
cac> SNFs in
BC>> the  late  1990's,  but woe is me... I still do today. As you 
cac> stated the
BC>> business  model  doesn't foster the best that OT can be as a 
cac> profession.
BC>> It is very inflexible and stifles innovation, creativity, and 
cac> quality in
BC>> favor  of  effeciency,  profit,  and bureaucratic compliance to 
cac> Medicare
BC>> rules  and regs which set the system up to be as lame as it is. 
cac> Some how
BC>> I have found a way continue in this practice setting for almost 15 
cac> years
BC>> and have sought out the most high quality employe
cac> rs and 
cac> facilities with 
BC>> a  bit  of  luck  had  good  results.  But  I  too am 
cac> growing VERY WEARY
BC>> of all the issues you so effectively stated.  I even spent one week 
cac> as a
BC>> Rehab  Manager  and  quit..it  made  me  physically  ill, tried o/p 
cac> hand
BC>> therapy  for  6months  and  was  quite  unsatisfied. I  have  
cac> thought of
BC>> leaving the  SNF setting, but every now and then I get a patient or 
cac> case
BC>> or  two  that  goes  so  well and is so satisfying that it draws me 
cac> back
BC>> in...it's  like  trying  to  leave  the  Mafia :), Ron do you think 
cac> home
BC>> health is the best OT practice setting?


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