I guess I dont understand why it's such a horrible thing for OT's to be 
knowledgeable and profiecient in treating UE ailments. I agree that shouldn't 
be the only area for the profession to focus on, but having a broken finger 
causes dysfunctional occupational performance! At least the dental hygenist had 
a good experience with OT as opposed to the 'cone therapists'. I would be 
interested to hear if the therapist discussed what the patient could do at home 
to reduce pain and improve function. The things we should be talking about when 
performing more rote therapy techniques. 
I think the profession needs OT's who are UE specialists! We don't want to 
loose that specialty area! 

Kristin



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  3. Re: Welcome to Our Newest Member(s) (Lehman, David)
  4. Invitation to connect on LinkedIn (Brent Cheyne)
  5. [OTlist) picture cook book (sr...@deakin.edu.au)
  6. Re: Welcome to Our Newest Member(s) (pat)
  7. W/C evals (Juan Turcios)
  8. Re: Welcome to Our Newest Member(s) (Ron Carson)
  9. Re: W/C evals (Ron Carson)
  10. picture cook book (Sherry Franchi)
  11. Dental Hygienst Knows About OT... (Ron Carson)
  12. Aging in place (angela jones)
  13. Re: Aging in place (Ron Carson)
  14. Re: Welcome to Our Newest Member(s) (Ed Kaine)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 06:43:28 -0400
From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
Subject: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Message-ID: <387363375.20090608064...@otnow.com>
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Welcome to our newest member(s):

#####################################

  aarel...@student.ucr.edu

  fai...@360customer.com

  ayeshabro...@gmail.com

  garret...@hotmail.com

  aloft....@gmail.com

  ang...@adhb.govt.nz

  jperkovic...@hotmail.com

  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie

  kshoers...@bright.net

  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp

  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com

#####################################

There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
seems to be the nature of the OTlist.

Ron




------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:26:29 -0400
From: Ed Kaine <aloft....@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
To: OTlist@otnow.com
Message-ID:
    <7a1eef350906081426j15c42d27je2e96c20037ef...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Everyone;

I would like to introduce a subject which might get a bit of a chain of
feedback going. I am part of a movement to offer an alternative name to
qualifying OTs and OTAs.

We are a membership organization called the American League of Functional
Therapists. We have the trademarked the collective marks and membership
marks of:

  1. Registered Functional Therapist RFT(TM)
  2. Registered Functional Therapy Associate(TM)

As a membership organization we will ensure that the members qualify under
the qualifications as written in our bylaws and as presented on our website
www.FunctionalTherapist.org <http://www.functionaltherapist.org/>. We also
have been doing well increasing recognition and searchability of our blog at
www.RegisteredFunctionalTherapist.Blogspot.com<http://www.registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/>.


Please take a look at the blog, become a follower of it to see what we are
talking about. If you have more interest please contact me at
registeredfunctionaltherap...@gmail.com.

The discussions on our Blog look at challenges in using our name, word
origins and implications, projects we are working on and generally what we
are about. For instance, a PT I have worked with for 9 years (and who has
worked with OTs for 25+ years) told me she always thought it was to do with
jobs. That was today after I told her about the effort ALOFT was doing to
provide an alternative name. She said, "Well, it seemed to make sense, you
need to have your shoes on before you can go to work.". We work in an acute
care hospital with many geriatric and retired patients. If someone I work
shoulder to shoulder with... even doing co-treats occasionally, doesn't know
what we do how can we expect John Q. Public to?

So how about you? Are some of the challenges you face due to our limited
name recognition. Do you think we could get any benefit from being able to
use an additional and alternative name? Again, we are not trying to change
the law or have your license say RFT. We are a membership organization
promoting OT services under an alternative name.

I hope you will check us out.

Thank you so much for your dedication to OT,

Ed Kaine, OTR, RFT
President of the American League of Functional Therapists

Functional Therapy... the Next Generation of Occupational Therapy!




On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com> wrote:

> Welcome to our newest member(s):
>
> #####################################
>
>  aarel...@student.ucr.edu
>
>  fai...@360customer.com
>
>  ayeshabro...@gmail.com
>
>  garret...@hotmail.com
>
>  aloft....@gmail.com
>
>  ang...@adhb.govt.nz
>
>  jperkovic...@hotmail.com
>
>  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie
>
>  kshoers...@bright.net
>
>  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp
>
>  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com
>
> #####################################
>
> There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
> seems to be the nature of the OTlist.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --
> Options?
> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com
>
> Archive?
> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
>


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 17:24:01 -0500
From: "Lehman, David" <dleh...@tnstate.edu>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
To: "OTlist@OTnow.com" <OTlist@OTnow.com>
Message-ID:
    <c7182729604a734d86ef514a8156a2183c844cc...@locutus.tnstate.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Oh my!  Is this the first attempt at creating what I have been saying for years 
will come?
David A. Lehman, PhD, PT
Associate Professor
Tennessee State University
Department of Physical Therapy
3500 John A. Merritt Blvd.
Nashville, TN 37209
615-963-5946
dleh...@tnstate.edu
Visit my website:  http://www.tnstate.edu/interior.asp?mid=2410&ptid=1


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________________________________________
From: otlist-boun...@otnow.com [otlist-boun...@otnow.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kaine 
[aloft....@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 4:26 PM
To: OTlist@otnow.com
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)

Hi Everyone;

I would like to introduce a subject which might get a bit of a chain of
feedback going. I am part of a movement to offer an alternative name to
qualifying OTs and OTAs.

We are a membership organization called the American League of Functional
Therapists. We have the trademarked the collective marks and membership
marks of:

  1. Registered Functional Therapist RFT(TM)
  2. Registered Functional Therapy Associate(TM)

As a membership organization we will ensure that the members qualify under
the qualifications as written in our bylaws and as presented on our website
www.FunctionalTherapist.org <http://www.functionaltherapist.org/>. We also
have been doing well increasing recognition and searchability of our blog at
www.RegisteredFunctionalTherapist.Blogspot.com<http://www.registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/>.


Please take a look at the blog, become a follower of it to see what we are
talking about. If you have more interest please contact me at
registeredfunctionaltherap...@gmail.com.

The discussions on our Blog look at challenges in using our name, word
origins and implications, projects we are working on and generally what we
are about. For instance, a PT I have worked with for 9 years (and who has
worked with OTs for 25+ years) told me she always thought it was to do with
jobs. That was today after I told her about the effort ALOFT was doing to
provide an alternative name. She said, "Well, it seemed to make sense, you
need to have your shoes on before you can go to work.". We work in an acute
care hospital with many geriatric and retired patients. If someone I work
shoulder to shoulder with... even doing co-treats occasionally, doesn't know
what we do how can we expect John Q. Public to?

So how about you? Are some of the challenges you face due to our limited
name recognition. Do you think we could get any benefit from being able to
use an additional and alternative name? Again, we are not trying to change
the law or have your license say RFT. We are a membership organization
promoting OT services under an alternative name.

I hope you will check us out.

Thank you so much for your dedication to OT,

Ed Kaine, OTR, RFT
President of the American League of Functional Therapists

Functional Therapy... the Next Generation of Occupational Therapy!




On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com> wrote:

> Welcome to our newest member(s):
>
> #####################################
>
>  aarel...@student.ucr.edu
>
>  fai...@360customer.com
>
>  ayeshabro...@gmail.com
>
>  garret...@hotmail.com
>
>  aloft....@gmail.com
>
>  ang...@adhb.govt.nz
>
>  jperkovic...@hotmail.com
>
>  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie
>
>  kshoers...@bright.net
>
>  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp
>
>  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com
>
> #####################################
>
> There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
> seems to be the nature of the OTlist.
>
> Ron
>
>
> --
> Options?
> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com
>
> Archive?
> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
>
--
Options?
www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com

Archive?
www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 14:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brent Cheyne <brentche...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [OTlist] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
To: Ron Carson <otlist@otnow.com>
Message-ID:
    <176512958.2954068.1244583866348.javamail....@ech3-cdn10.prod>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

LinkedIn
------------



  
Ron,

I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.

- Brent

Learn more:
https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/612090789/4p6Yt0rS/

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http://learn.linkedin.com/what-is-linkedin


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:21:40 +1000
From: sr...@deakin.edu.au
Subject: [OTlist] [OTlist) picture cook book
To: otlist@otnow.com
Message-ID: <20090610102140.b6p8h70lwo8k8...@www.deakin.edu.au>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=ISO-8859-1;    DelSp="Yes";
    format="flowed"

Hi all,

I'm currently doing my placement in a vocational setting for young  
adults with disabilities. I was wondering if anyone had any good  
experience with a simple instruction cook book with pictures that I  
would be able to obtain? Or any good website resources?

Thankyou, Sarah.




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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:43:42 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: pat <pat0...@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Message-ID:
    <30025311.1244648622384.javamail.r...@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
    
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Wow... that's a lot of new members!  A very warm welcome to all of you, and I 
hope that you will jump in with any topics or questions you have on your mind, 
as well as answers.

Pat

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
>Sent: Jun 8, 2009 4:43 AM
>To: OTlist@OTnow.com
>Subject: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
>
>Welcome to our newest member(s):
>
>#####################################
>
>  aarel...@student.ucr.edu
>
>  fai...@360customer.com
>
>  ayeshabro...@gmail.com
>
>  garret...@hotmail.com
>
>  aloft....@gmail.com
>
>  ang...@adhb.govt.nz
>
>  jperkovic...@hotmail.com
>
>  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie
>
>  kshoers...@bright.net
>
>  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp
>
>  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com
>
>#####################################
>
>There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
>seems to be the nature of the OTlist.
>
>Ron
>
>
>--
>Options?
>www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com
>
>Archive?
>www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com




------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:53:16 -0400
From: Juan Turcios <jcd...@gmail.com>
Subject: [OTlist] W/C evals
To: OTlist@otnow.com
Message-ID:
    <1e19fe9d0906100953o242a4c23j2858fedbb5224...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hello all, I have more  medicare questions for you. Are there any
requirements that we (OT's) must have to perform w/c evaluations? I read
somewhere that we needed some type of credentials. When I use to do the
evals (more than 8yrs ago) I remember that I spent about 45-60 minutes doing
the measurements and about an hour writing the letter of justification. My
second question is how do you bill medicare for this? and what is the
billable time allotted for these type of evaluations? Do we get the hour
only and bill under OT evaluation. Do we need a doctors order to do this
evaluation? or we can do the evaluation without the other, but we need
it for w/c training? Thanks again Juan Turcios


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:48:59 -0400
From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
To: Ed Kaine <OTlist@OTnow.com>
Message-ID: <765317167.20090610154...@otnow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Hey Ed:

To  me,  functional  therapist is even more generic than an occupational
therapist.

As  we've  discussed,  OCCUPATION  has  much  more meaning and depth. Of
course, the problem is that people, even OT's, don't understand that.

I'm  for  staying  with  occupational  therapist  but having AOTA market
occupation  and  having  OT's focus on occupation. For me, this is about
the only thing that makes any real sense.

Thanks,

Ron

~~~
Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Ed Kaine <aloft....@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009
To:  OTlist@otnow.com <OTlist@otnow.com>
Subj: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)

EK> Hi Everyone;

EK> I would like to introduce a subject which might get a bit of a chain of
EK> feedback going. I am part of a movement to offer an alternative name to
EK> qualifying OTs and OTAs.

EK> We are a membership organization called the American League of Functional
EK> Therapists. We have the trademarked the collective marks and membership
EK> marks of:

EK>    1. Registered Functional Therapist RFT(TM)
EK>    2. Registered Functional Therapy Associate(TM)

EK> As a membership organization we will ensure that the members qualify under
EK> the qualifications as written in our bylaws and as presented on our website
EK> www.FunctionalTherapist.org <http://www.functionaltherapist.org/>. We also
EK> have been doing well increasing recognition and searchability of our blog at
EK> 
www.RegisteredFunctionalTherapist.Blogspot.com<http://www.registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/>.


EK> Please take a look at the blog, become a follower of it to see what we are
EK> talking about. If you have more interest please contact me at
EK> registeredfunctionaltherap...@gmail.com.

EK> The discussions on our Blog look at challenges in using our name, word
EK> origins and implications, projects we are working on and generally what we
EK> are about. For instance, a PT I have worked with for 9 years (and who has
EK> worked with OTs for 25+ years) told me she always thought it was to do with
EK> jobs. That was today after I told her about the effort ALOFT was doing to
EK> provide an alternative name. She said, "Well, it seemed to make sense, you
EK> need to have your shoes on before you can go to work.". We work in an acute
EK> care hospital with many geriatric and retired patients. If someone I work
EK> shoulder to shoulder with... even doing co-treats occasionally, doesn't know
EK> what we do how can we expect John Q. Public to?

EK> So how about you? Are some of the challenges you face due to our limited
EK> name recognition. Do you think we could get any benefit from being able to
EK> use an additional and alternative name? Again, we are not trying to change
EK> the law or have your license say RFT. We are a membership organization
EK> promoting OT services under an alternative name.

EK> I hope you will check us out.

EK> Thank you so much for your dedication to OT,

EK> Ed Kaine, OTR, RFT
EK> President of the American League of Functional Therapists

EK> Functional Therapy... the Next Generation of Occupational Therapy!




EK> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com> wrote:

>> Welcome to our newest member(s):
>>
>> #####################################
>>
>>  aarel...@student.ucr.edu
>>
>>  fai...@360customer.com
>>
>>  ayeshabro...@gmail.com
>>
>>  garret...@hotmail.com
>>
>>  aloft....@gmail.com
>>
>>  ang...@adhb.govt.nz
>>
>>  jperkovic...@hotmail.com
>>
>>  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie
>>
>>  kshoers...@bright.net
>>
>>  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp
>>
>>  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com
>>
>> #####################################
>>
>> There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
>> seems to be the nature of the OTlist.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> --
>> Options?
>> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com
>>
>> Archive?
>> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com
>>
EK> --
EK> Options?
EK> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com

EK> Archive?
EK> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:15:19 -0400
From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] W/C evals
To: Juan Turcios <OTlist@OTnow.com>
Message-ID: <1094379405.20090610161...@otnow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Lots of good questions. I'll answer to the best of my ability:

JT> I read somewhere that we needed some type of credentials

        At one time, Medicare was going to require that all w/c evals be
        done  only  by people holding an ATP credential. This never came
        to fruition, so no special credential is currently required.

JT> NMy second question is how do you bill medicare for this?

        I  bill Medicare under the CPT code 97542 <W/C Management>. This
        is  a  timed  codes  so billing in accordance with all time code
        requirements, e.g. 7-minute rule, face to face, etc.

        There  is  no  specific  time allowed for the eval. Each eval is
        different  and requires a different time. Usually, 30 minutes to
        an hour is what is required. Higher level evals take longer!

        Do  not  bill  under  OT eval, as this is NOT appropriate. An OT
        eval  is  used  to  generate  a plan of care and you will not be
        doing that.

JT> Do we need a doctors order to do this evaluation?

        Medicare  does  NOT require doctor's orders for any therapy. The
        requirement  is  that  the patient be under the care of a doctor.
        This requirement is met when a doctor signs your w/c evaluation.

        You  may  obtain  an  order  if  desired and/or required by your
        state,  but it's NOT required by Medicare. But, the patient MUST
        be under a doctor's care. You will need the MD's information for
        billing purposes.

For  the record, I do NOT write a separate letter of justification. That
information is contained in my evaluation.

Hope this helps.

Ron

~~~
Ron Carson MHS, OT
www.OTnow.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Juan Turcios <jcd...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009
To:  OTlist@otnow.com <OTlist@otnow.com>
Subj: [OTlist] W/C evals

JT> Hello all, I have more  medicare questions for you. Are there any
JT> requirements that we (OT's) must have to perform w/c evaluations? I read
JT> somewhere that we needed some type of credentials. When I use to do the
JT> evals (more than 8yrs ago) I remember that I spent about 45-60 minutes doing
JT> the measurements and about an hour writing the letter of justification. My
JT> second question is how do you bill medicare for this? and what is the
JT> billable time allotted for these type of evaluations? Do we get the hour
JT> only and bill under OT evaluation. Do we need a doctors order to do this
JT> evaluation? or we can do the evaluation without the other, but we need
JT> it for w/c training? Thanks again Juan Turcios
JT> --
JT> Options?
JT> www.otnow.com/mailman/options/otlist_otnow.com

JT> Archive?
JT> www.mail-archive.com/otlist@otnow.com




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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:50:53 -0400
From: Sherry Franchi <sfran...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [OTlist] picture cook book
To: <otlist@otnow.com>
Message-ID: <bay109-w238898dcd084aea39c061fc5...@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"


Re: Picture Cook Book

Sarah, 
I do not know of a published cookbook as you are describing however, I created 
my own for a similar population using Google Images to locate pics of food and 
food products. I then pasted the pics into simplified recipes based on the food 
preferences of the person. Takes a little time, but is individualized. I 
included a map of the local grocery store to help with location of the food and 
food products. I found this was very helpful because  they often did not know 
where to begin looking in the grocery store for the ingredients they needed. 
You may find listing the ingredients by department or aisle helps too, 
depending on the cogntive abilities of the population you are targeting and 
their prior experience with grocery shopping. Hope this helps. 
Sherry  
_________________________________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:15:46 -0400
From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
Subject: [OTlist] Dental Hygienst Knows About OT...
To: OTlist@OTnow.com
Message-ID: <57157521.20090610211...@otnow.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Today at 8:00 AM, I dad the utterly "ucky" duty of visiting the dentist.
The  hygienist  saw  my  name  tag and actually recognized that I was an
occupational  therapist.  She then kindly proceeds to tell me of her ONE
experience with OT. She says:

        While  taking  my  friend to a PT appointment, there was this OT
        just  sort  of standing off in the corner. She came up and asked
        me  what  was wrong with my finger. I told her that I had broken
        it  and  couldn't  really move it. The OT said she could help me
        with that and...

Yada Yada Yada

Once  again,  UE  therapists  strike  a  deadly  blow  to  occupational
therapist! <LOL>

Ron




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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:33:23 -0400
From: angela jones <jonesang...@hotmail.com>
Subject: [OTlist] Aging in place
To: ot list <otlist@otnow.com>
Message-ID: <col101-w602e480e0dcf9039abae1ab2...@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"


Hello all,



Can anyone give me info concerning becoming an aging in place specialist...as 
an OT? I found the course requirements, CEU requirements etc but would like 
more specifically to know if we need M.D. orders in order to provide this 
service and what items I would need to consider if I start my own consulting 
business for Aging in Place?



Thanks for any info you may provide.



Angela Jones-Beaulieu MOTR/L


Angie  <(* )
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human being.?
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:29:30 -0400
From: Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Aging in place
To: angela jones <OTlist@OTnow.com>
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Angela, I looked into this a while back. The couple of AIP OT's I spokew
with  were  not  too  enthusiastic. As best I can remember, most AIP are
contractors, not OT's.

I  thinking finding adequate referrals will be extremely difficult. MD's
are  NOT  going  to  place a significant effort in understanding AIP and
will  probably not refer. Plus, there is the whole issue of payment. Who
is  going  to  pay  for your services and how many clients can afford to
make modifications to their home?

Sorry to be so negative.

Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: angela jones <jonesang...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009
To:  ot list <otlist@otnow.com>
Subj: [OTlist] Aging in place


aj> Hello all,

aj>  

aj> Can anyone give me info concerning becoming an aging in place
aj> specialist...as an OT? I found the course requirements, CEU
aj> requirements etc but would like more specifically to know if we need
aj> M.D. orders in order to provide this service and what items I would
aj> need to consider if I start my own consulting business for Aging in Place?

aj>  

aj> Thanks for any info you may provide.

aj>  

aj> Angela Jones-Beaulieu MOTR/L

aj>  
aj> Angie  <(* )
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:45:51 -0300
From: Ed Kaine <aloft....@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
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Hi Ron and others:

Please check out the blog at
http://www.RegisteredFunctionalTherapist.blogspot.com  we discuss this very
issue. In terms of generic, or more generic than OT it's an interesting
point. In particular,
http://registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/2009/06/challenge-lets-get-our-definition-in.html<http://registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/2009/06/challenge-lets-get-our-definition-in.html%20>

OT has a unique problem. Occupation does not mean (in the dictionary) what
we think it means. I have discussed it with a representative of Webster's
Dictionary... OTs definition of Occupation or occupational will not get in
there any time soon. It appears we will not succeed in our challenge of the
above article.

On the other hand Functional means almost exactly what thebest of OT is
doing. Functional tasks during treatments to effect functional improvements.
I do think we could expand the definition of Function... I also have clearly
stated I think there is value in the term Occupation. I believe that we need
to be clear with the public on what we can offer, right now we are almost
unknown. Even where we are "heard of" we are often misinterpreted.

I agree that AOTA should continue their excellent work. I don't think ALOFT
has to detract from that. The marketing of OT is important but (pre ALOFT)
my experience has been that *a lot of the time* when I do great things with
a patient... I mean wonderful, life altering improvements that I think will
propel OT to the spotlight... I am spoken of glowingly *as a physical
therapist.*

The other times it's as a doctor.

I don't know what kind of a marketing effort can beat face to face daily
contact (during which I clearly state my discipline and refer to it during
treatment). With this close attention my efforts often get credited to PT
(even among health care professionals). Getting the defintion in the
dictionary would be a huge step... the trick to that is real and generalized
exposure. We are not even on the list for consideration.

Let's try this. Let's give Functional Therapy a shot. It should not detract
from the efforts of AOTA or other marketing efforts, if anything it might
get people talking and learning about OT.

I am passionate about promoting the potential for OT philosophy and
treatment to change the world. I think the name (Occupational Therapy) is a
huge barrier to promoting it. I ask you to consider what's more important,
the process of care (philsophy, mode of thinking, problem solving, treatment
approach...) or the title?

Respectfully,

Ed Kaine, OTR, RFT
President of the American League of Functional Therapists

www.FunctionalTherapist.org

Functional Therapy... the Next Generation of Occupational Therapy!


On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com> wrote:

> Hey Ed:
>
> To  me,  functional  therapist is even more generic than an occupational
> therapist.
>
> As  we've  discussed,  OCCUPATION  has  much  more meaning and depth. Of
> course, the problem is that people, even OT's, don't understand that.
>
> I'm  for  staying  with  occupational  therapist  but having AOTA market
> occupation  and  having  OT's focus on occupation. For me, this is about
> the only thing that makes any real sense.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
>
> ~~~
> Ron Carson MHS, OT
> www.OTnow.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Kaine <aloft....@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009
> To:  OTlist@otnow.com <OTlist@otnow.com>
> Subj: [OTlist] Welcome to Our Newest Member(s)
>
> EK> Hi Everyone;
>
> EK> I would like to introduce a subject which might get a bit of a chain of
> EK> feedback going. I am part of a movement to offer an alternative name to
> EK> qualifying OTs and OTAs.
>
> EK> We are a membership organization called the American League of
> Functional
> EK> Therapists. We have the trademarked the collective marks and membership
> EK> marks of:
>
> EK>    1. Registered Functional Therapist RFT(TM)
> EK>    2. Registered Functional Therapy Associate(TM)
>
> EK> As a membership organization we will ensure that the members qualify
> under
> EK> the qualifications as written in our bylaws and as presented on our
> website
> EK> www.FunctionalTherapist.org <http://www.functionaltherapist.org/>. We
> also
> EK> have been doing well increasing recognition and searchability of our
> blog at
> EK> www.RegisteredFunctionalTherapist.Blogspot.com<
> http://www.registeredfunctionaltherapist.blogspot.com/>.
>
>
> EK> Please take a look at the blog, become a follower of it to see what we
> are
> EK> talking about. If you have more interest please contact me at
> EK> registeredfunctionaltherap...@gmail.com.
>
> EK> The discussions on our Blog look at challenges in using our name, word
> EK> origins and implications, projects we are working on and generally what
> we
> EK> are about. For instance, a PT I have worked with for 9 years (and who
> has
> EK> worked with OTs for 25+ years) told me she always thought it was to do
> with
> EK> jobs. That was today after I told her about the effort ALOFT was doing
> to
> EK> provide an alternative name. She said, "Well, it seemed to make sense,
> you
> EK> need to have your shoes on before you can go to work.". We work in an
> acute
> EK> care hospital with many geriatric and retired patients. If someone I
> work
> EK> shoulder to shoulder with... even doing co-treats occasionally, doesn't
> know
> EK> what we do how can we expect John Q. Public to?
>
> EK> So how about you? Are some of the challenges you face due to our
> limited
> EK> name recognition. Do you think we could get any benefit from being able
> to
> EK> use an additional and alternative name? Again, we are not trying to
> change
> EK> the law or have your license say RFT. We are a membership organization
> EK> promoting OT services under an alternative name.
>
> EK> I hope you will check us out.
>
> EK> Thank you so much for your dedication to OT,
>
> EK> Ed Kaine, OTR, RFT
> EK> President of the American League of Functional Therapists
>
> EK> Functional Therapy... the Next Generation of Occupational Therapy!
>
>
>
>
> EK> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ron Carson <rdcar...@otnow.com> wrote:
>
> >> Welcome to our newest member(s):
> >>
> >> #####################################
> >>
> >>  aarel...@student.ucr.edu
> >>
> >>  fai...@360customer.com
> >>
> >>  ayeshabro...@gmail.com
> >>
> >>  garret...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >>  aloft....@gmail.com
> >>
> >>  ang...@adhb.govt.nz
> >>
> >>  jperkovic...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >>  michelle.fitzpatr...@hse.ie
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> >>  kshoers...@bright.net
> >>
> >>  sjprs...@ybb.ne.jp
> >>
> >>  rkiss...@hvc.rr.com
> >>
> >> #####################################
> >>
> >> There  have  been  VERY  few  messages during the past month or so. That
> >> seems to be the nature of the OTlist.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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