Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like speculation at this point.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages <outages@outages.org> wrote: > Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using > e-sims instead. > > (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need > to work with a backwards carrier). > > I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo > which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. > (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well > (several of them were also mentioned). > > An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case. > > Owen > > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> > wrote: > > Agreed! > > After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email > signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a > huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages > happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort > offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack > thereof). > > Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell > phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another > carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use > the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. > > On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages < > outages@outages.org> wrote: > > > > Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by > humans. At least for now….. 😊 > > > > > > -richey > > > > *From: *Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> on behalf of Kenny Sallee > via Outages <outages@outages.org> > *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM > *To: *Lederer, Linda <llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com> > *Cc: *outages <outages@outages.org> > *Subject: *Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 > > I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and software > are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the business pays > for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity that affects > the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if the business > is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if we are out for > x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business decision: pay for > redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is not necessarily a > technical issue; it is a business issue. > > > > ;) > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages < > outages@outages.org> wrote: > > We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this > has been lovely…. > > > > *Linda Lederer* > > *IT DEPARTMENT* > > > > <image001.png> > > 2701 Red Lion Road > > Philadelphia, PA 19154 > > Office: 215.992.0900 > > Ext. 238 > > > > <http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/> > <image002.png> > <http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/> > <image003.png> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQ> > <image004.png> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods> > <image005.png> > <http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/> > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the > sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > > *From:* Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Begarowicz, > Shawn via Outages > *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:13 AM > *To:* Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org>; Jeremy Gault (KD4NED) < > jer...@gault.us> > *Cc:* OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> > *Subject:* Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 > > > > Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of > them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post > mortem > > > > > > > > Thank You, > Shawn Begarowicz (Technology/Service Manager) > Complete Interactive Technologies > 44265 Groesbeck Highway > Clinton Township, MI 48036 > 586-439-2000 Ext. 120 | 586-439-2001 Fax > 586-913-2420 Direct Tel | 586-203-4940 Direct Fax > 586-883-4037 Cell > shawn.begarow...@cit-4u.com > www.cit-4u.com > For Technical Support: > supp...@cit-4u.com > Website: > www.cit-4u.com > <image006.png> > > Celebrating 30 Years of your VISION our SOLUTION > > > > > > The information contained in this message is confidential and, if > addressed to a client or certain counsel, is subject to the attorney-client > or work-product privilege, and is intended only for the use of the > individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, please reply or notify us > immediately by email or telephone, and destroy or erase the message. > > > > Please think twice before printing out this email! > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> on behalf of Jeremy Gault > (KD4NED) via Outages <outages@outages.org> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:09 AM > *To:* Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org> > *Cc:* OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> > *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. > > > One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t > appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have > no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and > receive calls. > > Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G > service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones > sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others > having no service at all. > > I’d love to see the postmortem on this. > > Jeremy > > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > > https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzpiZDU5ZjVkODY5MTg2MWY0ODJiY2Q3M2MxMzY1ODNiZjo2OjdmZWU6MWMzZDEzZDBhZDdhODg4YTY0ZjVmYjYzODBkZjlkMDIyMGEzMjA3MjE4ODA3M2QxNWFhM2EzMTY0M2RjMzg2MzpwOlQ > <https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzpiZDU5ZjVkODY5MTg2MWY0ODJiY2Q3M2MxMzY1ODNiZjo2OjdmZWU6MWMzZDEzZDBhZDdhODg4YTY0ZjVmYjYzODBkZjlkMDIyMGEzMjA3MjE4ODA3M2QxNWFhM2EzMTY0M2RjMzg2MzpwOlQ> > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages > > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >
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