A lot of the individuals who claimed to have service issues (at least locally) using TMO and VZW claimed that because they were attempting to call individuals on AT&T. In two cases of individuals I talked to they had full voice and data. I haven't seen any confirmation on other providers being down, and VZW put out a statement stating they were aware of "another carrier" being down, but they were unaffected.
Example from news: > Verizon said Thursday morning that the outages are not affecting its network directly, only customers trying to reach another carrier. > T-Mobile also said early Thursday that the network didn't suffer an outage and is operating normally, and Downdetector numbers likely reflect customers attempting to reach users on other networks. Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/t-verizon-t-mobile-customers-hit-widespread-cellular-outages-us-rcna139938 On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 AM Josh Luthman via Outages < outages@outages.org> wrote: > Can anyone confirm issues with anything besides AT&t? This all seems like > speculation at this point. > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 12:39 PM Owen DeLong via Outages < > outages@outages.org> wrote: > >> Modern phones don’t use hardware sims to the best of my knowledge, using >> e-sims instead. >> >> (Though I think there is still a slot for a hardware sim in case you need >> to work with a backwards carrier). >> >> I’ll note that this outage apparently affected ATT, Verizon, and T-Mo >> which account for the vast majority of licensed spectrum in the US. >> (Basically all three primary carriers and thus likely every MVNO as well >> (several of them were also mentioned). >> >> An extra SIM might not have been helpful in this case. >> >> Owen >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:31, Tim Burke via Outages <outages@outages.org> >> wrote: >> >> Agreed! >> >> After reading through more lines of someone’s extremely obnoxious email >> signature than actual discussion in this thread, it seems like there is a >> huge amount of panic associated with this. Yes, it sucks that outages >> happen, and they shouldn’t happen… but cell service is a best effort >> offering and we cannot control the telcos and their DR plans (or lack >> thereof). >> >> Modern cell phones all have dual SIM capabilities, afaik. If your cell >> phone is as critical as its played out to be, get a second SIM on another >> carrier. Even if it’s just a cheap prepaid SIM on an MVNO that doesn’t use >> the same underlying carrier… It’s cheap insurance to keep you connected. >> >> On Feb 22, 2024, at 09:36, richey goldberg via Outages < >> outages@outages.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Remember. This stuff is still designed, built, and maintained by >> humans. At least for now….. 😊 >> >> >> >> >> >> -richey >> >> >> >> *From: *Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> on behalf of Kenny Sallee >> via Outages <outages@outages.org> >> *Date: *Thursday, February 22, 2024 at 10:22 AM >> *To: *Lederer, Linda <llede...@quakervalleyfoods.com> >> *Cc: *outages <outages@outages.org> >> *Subject: *Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 >> >> I encourage my customers to always assume carriers, hardware, and >> software are going to fail and have backup plans/methods. Either the >> business pays for it before it's needed or they lose money or productivity >> that affects the bottom line. It's a pretty simple equation: Hey Boss, if >> the business is OK with outages we do not need backup/redundancy. But if >> we are out for x hours it will cost y dollars. What's your business >> decision: pay for redundancy/backup or be ok with outages? Redundancy is >> not necessarily a technical issue; it is a business issue. >> >> >> >> ;) >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:38 AM Lederer, Linda via Outages < >> outages@outages.org> wrote: >> >> We use a fleet tracking service called Samsara which uses ATT – so this >> has been lovely…. >> >> >> >> *Linda Lederer* >> >> *IT DEPARTMENT* >> >> >> >> <image001.png> >> >> 2701 Red Lion Road >> >> Philadelphia, PA 19154 >> >> Office: 215.992.0900 >> >> Ext. 238 >> >> >> >> <http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/> >> <image002.png> >> <http://www.facebook.com/quakervalleyfoods/> >> <image003.png> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5DfxpLA6aGpeCwMvrNFxFQ> >> <image004.png> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/quaker-valley-foods> >> <image005.png> >> <http://www.quakervalleyfoods.com/> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the >> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged >> information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is >> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the >> sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> *On Behalf Of *Begarowicz, >> Shawn via Outages >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:13 AM >> *To:* Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org>; Jeremy Gault (KD4NED) < >> jer...@gault.us> >> *Cc:* OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [outages] [EXTERNAL] Re: ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 >> >> >> >> Our whole fleet uses ATT and it seems to slowly be dropping with all of >> them just not at the same time.. I agree cant wait to see the post >> mortem >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> Shawn Begarowicz (Technology/Service Manager) >> Complete Interactive Technologies >> 44265 Groesbeck Highway >> Clinton Township, MI 48036 >> 586-439-2000 Ext. 120 | 586-439-2001 Fax >> 586-913-2420 Direct Tel | 586-203-4940 Direct Fax >> 586-883-4037 Cell >> shawn.begarow...@cit-4u.com >> www.cit-4u.com >> For Technical Support: >> supp...@cit-4u.com >> Website: >> www.cit-4u.com >> <image006.png> >> >> Celebrating 30 Years of your VISION our SOLUTION >> >> >> >> >> >> The information contained in this message is confidential and, if >> addressed to a client or certain counsel, is subject to the attorney-client >> or work-product privilege, and is intended only for the use of the >> individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the >> intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, >> distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this communication in error, please reply or notify us >> immediately by email or telephone, and destroy or erase the message. >> >> >> >> Please think twice before printing out this email! >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Outages <outages-boun...@outages.org> on behalf of Jeremy Gault >> (KD4NED) via Outages <outages@outages.org> >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 22, 2024 9:09 AM >> *To:* Rob Repp <robr...@winnetka36.org> >> *Cc:* OUTAGES Mailing List <outages@outages.org> >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: [outages] ATT cellular network 2024-02-22 >> >> >> >> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not >> click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know >> the content is safe. >> >> >> One thing I have noticed: At least in some affected areas, it doesn’t >> appear to be all customers affected. For example, my phone and tablet have >> no service, but my watch will connect to LTE just fine and place and >> receive calls. >> >> Likewise, a buddy of mine came by here, and his phones have full 5G >> service on AT&T. I’ve also seen other reports of multiple AT&T phones >> sitting next to each other, some of them working perfectly fine, and others >> having no service at all. >> >> I’d love to see the postmortem on this. >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Outages mailing list >> Outages@outages.org >> >> https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzpiZDU5ZjVkODY5MTg2MWY0ODJiY2Q3M2MxMzY1ODNiZjo2OjdmZWU6MWMzZDEzZDBhZDdhODg4YTY0ZjVmYjYzODBkZjlkMDIyMGEzMjA3MjE4ODA3M2QxNWFhM2EzMTY0M2RjMzg2MzpwOlQ >> <https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https:/puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages___.YXAzOmNvbXBsZXRlOmE6bzpiZDU5ZjVkODY5MTg2MWY0ODJiY2Q3M2MxMzY1ODNiZjo2OjdmZWU6MWMzZDEzZDBhZDdhODg4YTY0ZjVmYjYzODBkZjlkMDIyMGEzMjA3MjE4ODA3M2QxNWFhM2EzMTY0M2RjMzg2MzpwOlQ> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Outages mailing list >> Outages@outages.org >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Outages mailing list >> Outages@outages.org >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Outages mailing list >> Outages@outages.org >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Outages mailing list >> Outages@outages.org >> https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >> > _______________________________________________ > Outages mailing list > Outages@outages.org > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages >
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