Vincent & Daryl

   Concerning humidity sensors... 

The HIH Series of sensors are low cost sensors, and perform better than
most similar sensors. However as high humidity ranges are reached
accuracy goes down. After exposure to high humidity they may exhibit
offset problems and need to be re-conditioned (exposure to low humidity
conditions for a period of time) in order to once again respond
properly.

They do not take well to dew formation on the sensor and ice formation
may cause sensor failure. I've also seen sensors fail due to metal
whiskers and other material failures on the PCB. 

The standard sensor is bulk calibrated, but if you specify the
calibrated (-003 versions as I recall) version you will get a
calibration formula based on that particular sensor to use for getting
the most out of the sensor (I recommend it as it's only a few dollars
more). Most software uses the typical formula which may not be accurate
for your sensor.

Use of a heating element circuit design to drop the humidity of the air
at the sensor is probably the best solution for outdoor use. This helps
keep the measurement range in optimum sensor measurement range. It can
also help prevent dew or ice formation on the sensing element. Most
1-wire designs do not include this or other protection elements in the
design, hence the marketing of the sensor for indoor use. (though most
users use it outdoors).

In addition, the DS2438 is known to be subject to self heating, and
since it’s a smt device it measures the temperature off the PCB. In
tests we preformed using our old LP-THS which also had a DS18B20 temp
sensor it could be several degrees hotter depending on PCB temp, though
both were mounted on the same board. (the PCB would heat during the day
and then when cooler air would blow in, it would remain heated. Note
that the DS18B20 works better because it has better airflow mainly...
and its DQ lead is also part of the sensing element as I understand it.
I always try to provide two temp sensors (the DS2438 and a verification
DS18B20 sensor) so the software can read both as needed. 

So its important to know what your working with in any given design.
If theirs enough interest I will do a new design for outdoor use
sometime.
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Concerning DS18S20 accuracy...

   Consult the data sheet...( 0.5C accuracy from –10°C to +85°C for a
DS18S20) also check if your testing conditions (Same environment,
airflow etc..) If off, then check if your sensor internal calibration
has gotten changed.. there were batches from Dallas that could suffer
from calibration errors. It is possible to re-calibrate a sensor by
using special opcodes. (this is how Dallas does it). Consult
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you have questions or a problem sensor.
There have been conversations on the Weather list about calibrating
sensors before... 

I typically use the DS18B20 which has better resolution than the
DS18S20.
Again also look at PCB layout issues because it can also effect reported
sensor temp. I've seen sensors placed next to heat generating circuitry
on some boards. I also typically power sensors at 5v regulated for best
performance.

There is only one brand of DS18S20's. Dallas makes it. The different
variations all use the same chip die internally. DS18B20, DS18S20 etc..
With the greatest resolution being the DS18B20 sensors.

Hope this helps somewhat...
Cheers,
  David Lissiuk
  Sr. Computer Scientist
  Springbok Digitronics

  Acting admin for www.1wire.org






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