Folks,
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:45 AM, christian <[email protected]> wrote: > one thing mentioned above is getting lost in this discussion: OwnCloud is now > at Version 5(!) but still hast problems in CORE features. I don't know what > you think, but most other Software is a lot more stable below Version 1. VLC > was a long time below V1 but was a lot more stable. You should really think > about this. OwnCloud has so many Sync-Problems (have you read the thread > about slow sync when uploading many files?). Other things like broken > features (have you read the thread about not working calendar in OC?). Again: > I don't want to talk about reading stuff in the forums or not. I agree that > the forums are not the right place. My point is the fact that OC is not > stable now and you guys call it Version 5. That is the main problem. At the > moment I do not recommend OC to friends or other people due to slow speed and > too much bugs. So I really can understand all those dissappointed users: They > download software and it is not stable. It is really annoying for users if > they sp > end time on installing software and then find out it is not working well. It > is better to read "be careful with your data, it is still beta". Most people > will understand this and they won't become angry because of data loss. Also > they will understand why things are slow sometime. Well, we know there are problems of course. But we also get enought reports of everything working perfectly. Of course not as many as the problem reports because there’s nothing to say when everything is fine. Oftentimes issues are caused by strange server setups which we can not feasibly test, or just a wrong server configuration. To detect and fix that we need active help. Sorry, but complaining on the mailing list mostly discourages and does not really help. Come over to Github, test ownCloud regularly with your setup, write tests, whatever you can do to help. > Regarding the Bug Posting: It is also not that easy because it is hard to > find the template. Users (as mentioned above) do not know github (and Admins > are also users in this context because they are not developers). So you > should ask yourself how to make it easier for them. This way you will get > more bug posts and more information about your own software. When you go to report an issue on http://github.com/owncloud/core/issues/new, there is a notice directly above the input for pointing you to the contribution guidelines and issue template. Just the other weekend I went through a whole bunch of old issues which were completely useless to us because the people were »just quickly reporting an issue« and had no additional info on how to reproduce and never returned. As for the »it’s difficult to register an account on Github« – it’s the same for the forum … if you really care about helping us fix issues in ownCloud then register on Github and report issues there properly, end of story. As Daniel said, reporting issues requires commitment too, so we can solve it _together_. It’s not just about letting us know there’s an issue, but also about helping us solve it. Thank you! :) _______________________________________________ Owncloud mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/owncloud
