If I buy a car that was built by a couple of guys at the local garage I'd
like to know I could take it to a different mechanic when they go out of
business or raise their prices.

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Anthony <asale...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

> Well i treat software like a car.  When you buy a car they don't give you
> the blueprints...
>
> Client always gets what they pay for..which is usually a function piece of
> software(code not always included) that helps them run their business...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi
> Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM
> To: ozDotNet
> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
>
> Hi Anthony,
>
> Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal
> practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate, I assume
> that at the end they would get everything and since I have been paid
> for the time to produce it, it belongs to them.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Arjang
>
>
> On 3 June 2010 20:11, Anthony <asale...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> > I assume that if the client doesn’t ask for the code then i don’t give it
> > out.  I would increase my fee if they want the code anyway
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
> ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
> > On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM
> > To: ozDotNet
> >
> > Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free!
> >
> >
> >
> > Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source
> code.
> >
> >
> >
> >> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
> >> immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
> compiled
> >> code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
> pretty
> >> much everything was obfuscated.
> >
> >
> >
> > In the form of a product that is true. But if that were the case I would
> > expect the OP would have wanted to obfuscate the entire solution. As
> there
> > is a single binary to be obfuscated (and it gets used a lot) it sounds
> more
> > likely that it is being used in custom software that is developed for a
> > single client. For the client:
> >
> >
> >
> > If they purchase a library then they get a support contract so if things
> go
> > wrong they get fixed
> >
> > If they use an open source library then they get the code so they can fix
> > issues or pass them on to someone to fix.
> >
> > If the developer hands them a library which is neither they could be in
> > trouble.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you are selling a product with support then this is OK because you
> have
> > an agreement with the client that you'll fix anything that goes wrong. If
> > you were to have a falling out with the client over an invoice or
> something
> > (it happens) then they effectively have a piece of software that only you
> > (someone they no longer wish to do business with) can maintain.
> >
> >
> >
> > As a client I would consider that an unacceptable risk.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dylan Tusler
> > <dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au> wrote:
> >
> >> That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept isn't
> >> it? Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something
> I'm
> >> not sure it's a great idea.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's a pretty weird point of view.
> >
> >
> >
> > After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time
> > immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what
> compiled
> > code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language,
> pretty
> > much everything was obfuscated.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dylan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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