On 4 June 2010 13:25, Anthony <asale...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Well i treat software like a car. When you buy a car they don't give you > the blueprints...
If you asked a car manufacturer to design a car to your specifications, they might. Consider racing teams being a better car analogy to software in this case (are we now /. to be using car analogies?) rather than going and buying a Falcon. > > Client always gets what they pay for..which is usually a function piece of > software(code not always included) that helps them run their business... Then there's the putting codebase into an escrow system, where the customer only gets the code in the event of bankruptcy, etc. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] > On Behalf Of Arjang Assadi > Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 8:38 AM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free! > > Hi Anthony, > > Please forgive my ignorance but my question is what is normal > practice? What is meant by work? When quoting hourly rate, I assume > that at the end they would get everything and since I have been paid > for the time to produce it, it belongs to them. > > Kind Regards > > Arjang > > > On 3 June 2010 20:11, Anthony <asale...@tpg.com.au> wrote: >> I assume that if the client doesn’t ask for the code then i don’t give it >> out. I would increase my fee if they want the code anyway >> >> >> >> From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] >> On Behalf Of Michael Minutillo >> Sent: Thursday, 3 June 2010 3:07 PM >> To: ozDotNet >> >> Subject: Re: .NET Obfuscator Software..free! >> >> >> >> Well most clients I have dealt with in the past end up with the source > code. >> >> >> >>> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time >>> immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what > compiled >>> code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language, > pretty >>> much everything was obfuscated. >> >> >> >> In the form of a product that is true. But if that were the case I would >> expect the OP would have wanted to obfuscate the entire solution. As there >> is a single binary to be obfuscated (and it gets used a lot) it sounds > more >> likely that it is being used in custom software that is developed for a >> single client. For the client: >> >> >> >> If they purchase a library then they get a support contract so if things > go >> wrong they get fixed >> >> If they use an open source library then they get the code so they can fix >> issues or pass them on to someone to fix. >> >> If the developer hands them a library which is neither they could be in >> trouble. >> >> >> >> If you are selling a product with support then this is OK because you have >> an agreement with the client that you'll fix anything that goes wrong. If >> you were to have a falling out with the client over an invoice or > something >> (it happens) then they effectively have a piece of software that only you >> (someone they no longer wish to do business with) can maintain. >> >> >> >> As a client I would consider that an unacceptable risk. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Dylan Tusler >> <dylan.tus...@sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au> wrote: >> >>> That is potentially a pretty dangerous risk for a client to accept isn't >>> it? Unless it contains some kind of proprietary algorithm or something > I'm >>> not sure it's a great idea. >> >> >> >> That's a pretty weird point of view. >> >> >> >> After all, "clients" have been accepting obfuscated code since time >> immemorial already! (Well, at least since the 1980s.) That's what compiled >> code is! Unless you wanted to reverse engineer to assembly language, > pretty >> much everything was obfuscated. >> >> >> >> Dylan. >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------------------- >> >> To find out more about the Sunshine Coast Council, visit your local > council >> office at Caloundra, Maroochydore, Nambour or Tewantin. Or, if you prefer, >> visit us on line at www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au >> >> This email, together with any attachments, is intended for the named >> recipient(s) only. Any form of review, disclosure, modification, >> distribution and or publication of this email message is prohibited > without >> the express permission of the author. Please notify the sender immediately >> if you have received this email by mistake and delete it from your system. >> Unless otherwise stated, this email represents only the views of the > sender >> and not the views of the Sunshine Coast Regional Council. >> maile 3_1_0 >> >> >> -- >> Michael M. Minutillo >> Indiscriminate Information Sponge >> Blog: http://wolfbyte-net.blogspot.com > > > -- Meski "Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough" - Adam Hills
