Not really the reality of this thread and others like it are pretty common place when you peel back the hidden "cubicle conversation" layers outside the usual conference muffin eating feasts. Deep down IE9 doesn't feel right because it really hasn't done much beyond "Oh yeah, you want tabs and fast stuff with like standards...say..didn't you want that years ago? my bad.. i got caught up in IE Slices or SideBar Gadgets" sugar rushes :) hehehehe
Disappointment was more in line with WPF/Silverlight momentum. It's like the Zune...so much potential ...what a waste of good tech. It would be less bitter taste if there was something beyond ye old "let's take a document language an animate it through layers of mutated semantic threads" called HTML? as I'm now thinking maybe my VRML Scholarship (1996 w00t) I got years ago could be ahead of the HTML curve? :D. On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Tony Wright <ton...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > Gosh you sound so disappointed that they didn’t live up to your > expectations. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 4:43 PM > > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: IE9: why do I hate it so much > > > > Market share really isn't the end game, having a browser being the most > popular was a curse/blessing in one. When they had it nobody in the company > had a clue on what to do with it all they knew was to increment its growth > was to do so very slowly given any breaking changes could end up hurting the > interweb (thus you see the IE6 to IE9 fail trajectory today). All they knew > was they had to do something quick and just like Gorillaz once wrote in a > song "caught up in the *conflict* / *between* his *brain* and his *tail" *is > how that saga played out - by the time the team figured out what to do with > it market-share tanked, Silverlight / XBAP was born and now its about > retreating back to the browser & try again. > > > > *The future of IE9 is to storm the script kiddy developer beach heads, > provoke HTML5 + AJAX war chants get everyone excited about the purity of > ACID compliance and 3D via Interweb then when everyone is lulled into a HTML > Utopian high ...boom goes the dynamite, out comes the forked Desktop Native > API friendly addons to IE thus enabling "Look mah, I can haz ur desktop app > with my script k3iddy er33tness JavaScript/HTML5 mass celebration of > mediocrity" then when that occurs queue the next iteration of what we see > today as WPF/Silverlight coming back in via a massive "We're sorry, check > out our new improved UX Platform" followed by the ye olde Microsoft Playbook > being resurrected again and again.* > > > > Windows is thine name, I for one embrace my new Windows 8 Overlords. I > figure join the cult early that way you can build trust and get closer to > the ground zero of stupidity... come...follow me into the cloud for ye shall > see the foggy brilliance of what makes lemmings jump off cliffs!! :) > > > > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Tony Wright <ton...@tpg.com.au> wrote: > > Microsoft has released this to presumably attempt to increase market share, > or at the very least not lose market share to competitors such as Chrome, > perhaps rushed out in desperation when it wasn’t ready, due to Chrome’s new > version launch. > > > > Of course, if this is making me reluctantly look at other browsers, I am > firmly of the belief that this version will actually lose Microsoft browser > market share far more than if they hadn’t have released it at all, because I > would have continued using the old browser. Now I hate the new browser, and > don’t appear to have a path back to IE8. So my only solution is to change > Brands. > > > > T. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 3:42 PM > *To:* 'ozDotNet' > *Subject:* RE: IE9: why do I hate it so much > > > > Oh yes, I forgot about the crashes. > > > > *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Corneliu I. Tusnea > *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 May 2011 3:11 PM > *To:* ozDotNet > *Subject:* Re: IE9: why do I hate it so much > > > > I'm in the same boat. > > I totally dislike the tabs. Even more my tabs don't always open. I can > consistently get my IE stuck in opening a tab. It "opens" and switches to > the new tab but the tab never appears and I can't go back. I'm left with > only one tab with the "your most popular sites" and everything else locked > up. > > I get this 10 times a day. (this is on a fresh installation less than 10 > days old install). > > I also dislike the "Your most popular sites" thing. I need to see the > screenshot not just some logos and a random useless text. > > I think Metro started to take over usability. Oh, and don't get me started > on the favourites and plugins and random stupi*** ActiveX extensions. > > I tried to use it in anger for few weeks. Now I only use it for OWA and > SharePoint access. > > > > I think IE9 is the Vista of IE :) > > > > Corneliu > > > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Scott Barnes <scott.bar...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Its pretty common mistake made often daily. Abstracting users from Time is > also quite hard to achieve especially given the array of variables that a > browser can come attached with (CPU / GPU speeds, Bandwidth Latency, Task / > Processes running in background ..ie I/O latency etc). > > > > If you're bored read this study on Progress Bar's and just how stupid we > human beings can be on a little ol Progress Bar > > > https://ritdml.rit.edu/bitstream/handle/1850/10867/33058_pdf_29344_26CF3AD6-D9B7-11DE-BDEF-B767F0E6BF1D.pdf?sequence=1 > > > > Now amplify that across all your user interface principles. > > > > As for IE9 sucking? yeah I don't: > > - Metro "back" button. I'm kinda drinking the Microsoft pre-ordained > cookie cut UI Metro Koolaid but seriously big BACK buttons aren't exactly > smart unless you have some kind of weird Fits & Hick's law voodoo going on? > - Tabs are two narrow in height. On a desktop I can live with this, but > on a laptop resting on my - lap - using a track pad on say a train? ..its > kind of a mini game of "See if you can hit my X and win a prize" > - Alerts at the bottom. Sure I get the whole "Hey its a passive > info-ware area!" moments of goodness. It however is hard at times to > distinguish between the site i'm currently on and the IE chrome. > Furthermore > "Show all Content" alerts when folks bring in ext resources via SSL sites > are freaking annoying. I'd prefer it just say "Would you like to forgive > this site from here on out of its SSL naughtiness? - *click* Forgive it is" > - No dashboard page? - I love my chrome dashboard thumbnail of > frequently visited sites... > - etc.. > > I could list a few "why i dislike IE" more.. but for me at the end of the > day it's a Chrome Clone..so while I know how IE9 came to be from > inside/outside Microsoft perspective(s) it still feels a bit cheapened to > just catchup to the guy (Google) who picked a fight with you in the > Browser-school yard? they could do more - that is if they manage to stop > losing their team members to the Google Chrome team :) > > > > > > > > > --- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.riagenic.com > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Michael Minutillo < > michael.minuti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how fast it actually IS, it matters > how fast it FEELS to the end user. Good UI is psychology more than > engineering. > > > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, David Connors <da...@codify.com> wrote: > > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Winston Pang <winstonp...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I mean it actually feels a lot slower to load her up as well, compared > to chrome, not sure how google did it, but it feels so much more > smoother and faster to use chrome than anything else, I mean creating > a new tab in chrome feels so damn fast! > > > > If you can get past the dreadful performance of the speaker in this video, > it explains why it is so fast. Good engineering and a helping of smoke and > mirrors. :) > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymgXTdWWNUU > > > -- > *David Connors* | da...@codify.com | www.codify.com > Software Engineer > Codify Pty Ltd > Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 > 189 363 > V-Card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors > Address Info: https://www.codify.com/contact > > > > > > > > >
