On switching apps: Good-old Alt-Tab works for me? Or Ctrl-Alt-Tab to keep it open and pick?
John ________________________________ > From: ton...@tpg.com.au > To: ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com > Subject: RE: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 > Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 11:41:15 +1000 > > > I have to agree with what you’re saying about flicking between apps. > And you’ve got a tablet - it’s even harder with a mouse! > > > > As far as I can tell, you have to go so close to the left border of the > desktop and then it seems to only show the previous view/app you were > using. I would have thought it would show all the apps that you > currently have activated (but are probably suspended) allowing you to > slide between the various apps. > > > > Also, it took me a while to figure out that the start button was still > available because it was so far down in the bottom left corner that I’m > surprised I actually stumbled across it with the mouse. > > > > I know it’s early days and it’s designed for touch – but I’m worried > it’s going to upset a lot of people if they don’t work out how to make > that more intuitive. There’s is a lot of existing hardware that it’s > going to have to run on that is not touch ready. > > > > T. > > > > From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com > [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of David Burela > Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2011 5:54 PM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 > > > > For those wanting to play with it inside a virtual machine, i'd > recommend you instead boot directly into Win8 as a VHD instead. > > Here is a guide from Scott Hanselman > > http://www.hanselman.com/blog/GuideToInstallingAndBootingWindows8DeveloperPreviewOffAVHDVirtualHardDisk.aspx > > > > > > > One of those "annoying things" I'm finding with the new tile interface, > is trying to swap from one app to another. You need to keep flicking > your finger from the left to cycle through the apps. It makes it really > difficult to know if your app is still actually in the back stack, or > where exactly it is. I keep flicking through, cycling through twice > only to discover that my app isn't open any more, or I keep missing it > and need to keep cycling through again. > > Having a way to switch apps with say, similar to how you can quick > switch on iOS would make it so much more functional. > > > > -David Burela > > On 16 September 2011 16:33, Grant Maw > <grant....@gmail.com<mailto:grant....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > No, Win7 64 bit host. x64 Win8 preview. > > > > On 16 September 2011 14:36, Winston Pang > <winstonp...@gmail.com<mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Grant, were you doing it on a 32bit host environment? installing the > x64 Win8 preview build? > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Grant Maw > <grant....@gmail.com<mailto:grant....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > To get it working on VirtualBox (assuming you had the same "unexpected > error" that I got) you need to do this : > > In the settings for your virtual box, motherboard tab, make sure you > have selected "Enable IO APIC", then on the Processor tab, make sure > "Enable PAE/NX" is selected. > > > > I have also read somewhere that people are having trouble getting the > networking to work properly. I didn't have this issue but the current > wisdom for this is to go into settings and on Network-Adapter1-Advanced > choose the generic (Intel PRO/1000 MT) network card. > > > > Hope that helps > > > > Grant > > On 16 September 2011 14:19, Winston Pang > <winstonp...@gmail.com<mailto:winstonp...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Ah, nice, thanks Ken, I was using virtual box, but it crapped itself. > So I thought it was across the board. > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Ken Schaefer > <k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: > > Applications like VMWare Workstation will let you run 64bit VMs even if > the host OS is 32bit > > > > Cheers > > Ken > > > > From: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> > [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] > On Behalf Of Winston Pang > Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 10:58 AM > > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 > > > > Man it totally sucks. > > > > I wanted to install x64 on a VM but forgot that my current install of > windows is 32bit, so it wont run the Windows 8 x64 version, which is > the only version that has the VS2011 express dev tools, GAHHHHHHH > > > > And that link requires MSDN subscription only. > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:01 PM, David Kean > <david.k...@microsoft.com<mailto:david.k...@microsoft.com>> wrote: > > Please also play around with the developer tools, I’d suggest > downloading the Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview > (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/jasonz/archive/2011/09/14/announcing-visual-studio-11-developer-preview.aspx) > > over the Express edition. > > > > One thing you should be aware of is that we only have a certain amount > of time to react to feedback before the Beta – so please, please tell > us what you think. > > > > Although Windows 8 seems to be getting the most attention, if you use > TFS, there’s a bunch of goodness in this release which I’ve been > dogfooding for the past 6 months; Agile tools to manage stories and > tasks, My Work which is basically a Pending changes on steroids, and a > new built-in Code Review tool. > > > > From: > ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> > [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com<mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com>] > On Behalf Of Stephen Price > Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:23 PM > To: ozDotNet > Subject: Re: Microsoft BUILD / Windows 8 > > > > I installed it on my Asus eee slate last night. First attempt left me > in an endless boot loop telling me there was a problem. Maybe it was > because I installed it in a pub? Backed up hard drive and formatted it, > installing from scratch. Went much better second time. > > > > It makes my slate so much nicer to use. Windows 7 was not fantastic for > touch input. Windows 8 makes it so much nicer. It gives my slate two > modes of use, walk around the house, drive with finger mode (classic > tablet) and then keyboard and mouse (bluetooth) to do any desktop > stuff. > > > > Really fast to shutdown and start up. Its like less than 5 seconds to > get to the login screen. > > > > Unfortunately my slate has an problem where it just powers off > randomly. Hardware issue, it started doing it a week ago and is still > doing it. need to send it back for repair :( > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:18 AM, William Luu > <will....@gmail.com<mailto:will....@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Thanks David. > > > > That's one of the better summaries I've read thus far. > > > > On 16 September 2011 01:12, David Burela > <david.bur...@gmail.com<mailto:david.bur...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I'm surprised there hasn't been any discussion around this on the > mailing list yet. > > > > I've got some notes about the day 1 & day 2 keynotes > > http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/14/build-keynote-day-1metro-experience-with-jupiter-xaml-and-html5js/ > > > http://davidburela.wordpress.com/2011/09/15/build-keynote-day-2windows-server-8-and-developer-tools/ > > > > > Some quick thoughts: > > Development > > The new functionality for the immersive apps is cool. The "charms" that > allow you to share data between applications (edit an image in an image > editor, then have another app directly upload it to twitter) is cool. > > User account syncing across desktops is also interesting. Syncing > combined with the "Credential locker" allows a user to log in to an app > on one computer (e.g. using Facebook or Google credentials to log in > via the Azure ACS), the credentials are saved in the locker and synced > to their other computers. So later if they pick up a tablet and launch > the app, they will just be logged in straight away. and it only takes > ~3 lines of code. > > > > as a desktop > > The new tile start screen is cool. and the new immersive apps in the > metro themed style is cool > > However I am finding it really frustrating to use it as a general > Operating System, as I keep getting mentally confused between the 2 > different contexts (Tile interface, classic desktop). > > I keep hitting start to bring up my list of programs, but that takes > you back to the tiles. > > I also don't see how my traditional multi monitor setup with > multitasking is going to work in this world of new "immersive" style > apps. Reading a webpage in the chromeless immersive app and then trying > to chat with someone on MSN, is a jarring experience. > > > > -David Burela > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
