On Tue., 21 Nov. 2017, 4:50 pm Greg Low, <[email protected]> wrote: > But when a business just wants a line of business app, are these good > answers now? Do they care if it could be used by billions of people? The > odd one might care. Most won’t. >
None do. There is a reason why salesforce and service now have become the successful companies / cults that they have. > won’t they be more concerned with taking 6 or 8 times longer, and costing > proportionately more? > App development or TCO? What % did Fred Brooks say Dev is vs lifetime? > Not every app is at the high-end. Most aren’t. > Correct. But there are hybrid paas/SaaS environments for those. People still making money out of writing departmental apps need to be shit scared of SFDC and powerapps. > And now I watch daily nightmares around deploying web apps too. > Not to client PC's you don't. You just email a url. If you see crap server side deployments then that is a reflection of bad devops. > What exactly have we done to ourselves? > Focus on end user experience. If I were a cio I'd mandate responsive web apps with identity as a boundary so I don't have to give a shit any more. If someone wants to use an android phone or iPad pro or windows PC ... Who cares? David > > *To:* ozDotNet <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: Creating a browser-based product > > > > I'm not sure this is much more of an issue now than it was. Back in the > day we had to decide between Delphi, VB, Powerbuilder, C++ among others > when building a Windows app. And once we decided that we had to work out > which third party libraries we wanted to use with them. > > > > If I take an old 15 year old Delphi app I have it would take me the best > part of a week to get it compiling again now if I had to build the dev > machine from scratch. > > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Greg Low <[email protected]> wrote: > > So then we’re back to why business apps take so very long to build > nowadays, and why no-one can seem to decide which tools to use. Either way, > as an industry, our productivity when building apps is poor. > > > > > > -- David Connors [email protected] | @davidconnors | https://t.me/davidconnors | LinkedIn | +61 417 189 363
