until a rendering engine is included I can not see any benefit to using
blazer or any other WASM equivalents. Flash as bad as it was , was a better
solution , no idea what the big idea was to kill it off , or for that
matter ms unilaterally killing silver light.


On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 5:26 pm Greg Keogh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Folks, has anyone else in here given Blazor a good bash and got comments?
> I've run some sanity tests on 0.7 and it's looking pretty good. You can
> reference packages and projects, there's basic binding (which I hope they
> improve), you can break things up into "components" and nest them, separate
> code-behind if you want, register and inject services, define routing, make
> async web calls, deploy to Azure web apps, etc. All this stuff I mentioned
> is in the docs, but I had to try it myself to see if it really works. The
> only thing I haven't tried yet is rendering a large complex page to see how
> it performs and responds to DOM changes.
>
> So finally it looks like there's a real chance in the .NET ecosystem that
> the crazy zoo of JS frameworks to make SPAs will be displaced by a familiar
> and respected languages and frameworks. Great, but suddenly I was slapped
> hard by a shocking realisation … we're still stuck using the web browser
> and HTML (and some JS glue) for rendering the UI.
>
> The web browser cannot render complex business app UIs. Where are the rich
> controls and layout features we are used to on the desktop, or in
> Silverlight, or Flash or Java Applets for that matter? HTML was created to
> render simple text and pictures and now 27 years later it's completely
> effing stupid that we're still trying to create apps with it. We're
> changing how those apps are written, but we're still stuck with the damn
> browser and HTML for rendering.
>
> I have an example … a few weeks ago I wondered by a web page was taking
> 40s to load. It turned out I was loading a tree (a fake one, as there is no
> tree control) with 4000 nodes, each one in a div and 3880 of them were
> hidden. So the page looked small and tidy, but there were thousands of
> hidden divs. I spent hours of suffering inventing a click-demand-load
> technique. There is no virtualisation in HTML, which is taken for granted
> in real UI frameworks.
>
> There endeth the good news and the bad news.
>
> *Greg K*
>

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