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Hello tchurma...
I read Andrea´s article, and I agree
with almost everything she says.
Anyway, let´s understand the "doula
craze" in different situations and contexts.
In tecnocratic contexts it is REALLY
a blessing, because we still have so much work to be done in the direction of
humanization of chilbirth.
In Australia, Holland, New Zealand,
maybe they are not really necessary, or not too helpfull.
So.. we have different situations.
Different countries and realities.
Doulas CAN make a difference in
Brasil. But I dream of the day that they will be no longer
necessary.
Obstetricians attending normal birth
in my country (like me) IS the reality nowadays. The first thing to do is
humanize these doctor´s atittudes, step by step.
Doulas and the presence of the family
(or a chosen companion) in the obstetric room (believe me, it´s not a right
here yet !!) are some of the steps.
But I dream of the day that doctors
come to be heroes, just for the rare sittuation an intervention is absolutely
necessary.
Each thing at each
time...
Ric
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:36
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Doulas in
Brasil
Hi there
Here in South Africa we also see that midwifes dont have
time for this helping the mother.They are very few in veeeeeery busy ward with
a lot of clients birthing.In my area specific I know that doulas will do such
a lot but doulas are still very foreign.I recently attended a birth in a ABU
with a ob/gyn who is a midwifes dream because she have a midwifes heart.I went
in as a support person with the partner .I was a waterbirth and after she
settled I stand next to her and offered them a cup of tea I mean the normal
thing to do ...can still remember that cuppa after my own baby.I went brought
the tea stand next to her and see that the baby latched she did it.Afterwards
the midwife on duty who helped with the birth came to say to me please
not to do it because I set expectations that they cant met...........To busy
for a cup of tea?
Hettie Grove
RN.RM.RCN.BA.CUR.ICCE.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:50
AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Doulas in
Brasil
Dear Denise:
Next month (october) I will be in Cleveland,
giving a lecture about Humanization on Childirth in Case Western University,
showing my own experience with birth. It will take several years to
transform birth in Brasil in a women centered and cientifically
based assistance, and I honestly think that doulas is a valid way to do
that.
I would love to know Sydney, and I am sure I
will do that someday, bur still have to get enough money to do
that.
Andrea... I will read the doula articles
you wrote, Andrea.
I know it's controversial, but I don't think
that allowing parents to enter the obstetric ward colides with the idea of
having a doula to give assistance to the laboring woman.
Nurses in my country don't have time to do
that. They are a few in the hospital, and are involved in burocratic stuff.
It's almost impossible to see a 1 to 1 care with nurses here. And, besides
that, universities in Brasil graduates nurses as tecnocratic as doctors.
That's a hard scenario, but that's why we all here... to change a bit and to
give a better world to our kids... :o)
Anyway, I am opened to that discussion, and I
want to learn ALL the alternatives to give dignity and power to women giving
birth.
Kisses !!!
Ric
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002
8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hello -
Brasil here...
Dear ricardo
Welcome
Are you coming to the International meeting
of OBs in Sydney next month??
Denise hynd
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002
4:29 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Hello -
Brasil here...
Hello everybody:
My name is Ricardo Herbert
Jones
I am an obstetrician from Brasil, and had
the pleasure of meeting Andrea Robertson this year in a Congress
about Humanization of Childbirth in São Paulo, Brasil.
As an obstetrician I would like to share
experiences with midwives and doulas all around the world, because I
think that humanization of birth is an issue that has to do with every
single person in this planet. Even thou only women deliver babies (yet -
who knows where the tecnocratic paradygm will takes us?) all of us
were once born, and lived during a limited time in a woman´s womb. Were
we rescued from there by doctors and eletronic devices or were we
cherished by mom´s tender body till we entered this world? These are
different ways of looking to the same event. As I grew old (I am 43 now,
and work with births from 20 years) I learned that
women shall be treated with caress and gentleness. Birth in
our tecnocratic society is seen as a mechanic phenomenon, and doctors
usually see their patients as objects, and not as persons and subjects.
That´s a terrible thing, because it´s a human´s right
problem.
I am one of the leaders of Rehuna
(Humanization of Childbirth Network - Brasil) and our struggle now is to
empower women in their decisions about chilbirth and force the
government area to humanize the assistance to women in the public
hospitals. The first step is a doula project, called "Friends in Light",
to graduate doulas and doula trainners in Rio de Janeiro.
Ok, as u can see my english is not quite
well, and I love to talk too much...
Hope I can get good advices from you
all.
Ricardo Herbert Jones
Ob/Gyn and Homeopath
Porto Alegre - Brasil
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