Yay Sally!!! This is precisely the valuing of midwifery services that we need - I was discussing midwives being at the births of women in private hospitals when the obs are not there and how they still get their $500-00 or whatever it is (for being absent)and we are there, but we get $22 per hour....what does that tell us?
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sally Westbury Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I agree that birthing choice must be a freely (in both senses of the word) available for all women. GP's practice with a huge amount of autonomy. No-one dictates to them how they run their practice but they can if they choose bulk bill and so provide free service to their clients. GP's can use alternative therapies and bulk bill for it with their provider number. Lets really fight for out autonomy as well as our work to be paid for from the public purse. Let the guideline come from our professional bodies rather than the health dept. This is also a battle about our status as a professional body. Do we wish to remain as workers for the state or professionals able to regulate themselves as do doctors, physiotherapists, speech therapists etc etc. Lets stand up for ourselves as well as birthing women. Sally Westbury -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Kleidon Sent: Monday, 25 November 2002 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract I totally agree with what Pete has said probably because I too have a strong socialist heart. I do believe that different localities can sort out with the women and midwives in their particular area practice guidelines, procedures, and protocols that are based on the midwifery model of care that all can live with. Surely each MIPP has their own set. I think since we are asking for government funding one way or another there has to be some give and take on these issues and as Pete said if we need to be employed by Govt to make NMAP happen then in effect we have increased choices for women. At least a lot of women. I really think if you expect to have no guidelines or too few then it just will not happen. marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malavisi, Pete" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > I am basically a socialist at heart, so I see Govt employed public system my > future, even with all the controls over the years I have managed to have > many excellent birthing experiences with women and their families, > inevitably it has meant jumping through some hoops at times but I have > accepted that as part of the deal, I still believe that PI should be > available to those who wish to practice privately as well but see that as > another issue. If we can be employed by Govt to make NMAP happen then in > effect we have increased choices for women, the politics and control will > continue whatever system is chosen. hope this makes sense, feel like I'm > rambling a bit, yours in midwifery pete malavisi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Denise Hynd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, 23 November 2002 10:30 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > > > Dear Pete, > That is the rub > With out PI it is precarious being in private practice with out government > support/employment!! > So the question of how this is done is important to all midwives and > consumers. > > Because he who pays the piper calls the tune particularly if it is a salary > situation. > What tune will be played when the piper is the health depts well they > already have a host of protocols and a host of workers who adhere to them so > why should salaried community midwives be any different. > > Then all women in NSW or which ever state whop rupture their membranes come > in get A/bs and IOL after x hours!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Malavisi, Pete <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 1:15 PM > Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] SalariedVersusContract > > > > I'm not too fussed whether it is salaried or contract but believe the > > service has to provided by the government and those who want to work > > privately can continue to do so. I personally don't like dealing with the > > money side of things though obviously need an income. yours in midwifery > > pete malavisi > > > > -- > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
