Dear All,
The most important right that a birthing mother has.... is to give birth
GENTLY, EASILY and without PAIN.
What really upsets me, is that most women expect pain, and what you expect,
is what you get. And yes, I know I'm oversimplifying, however, pain is a
warning that something is wrong and there is nothing wrong with giving birth
so if there is pain, then that means there is something wrong elsewhere.
That elsewhere is how women have been programmed to think, by society,
friends, well meaning Physio's or midwives etc, that there will be pain and
discomfort.
Pain IS NOT the natural inheritance of women.
( He got off his soapbox for a moment to catch his breath)
Women's bodies are designed to give birth. Read Dr Grantley Dick-Read,
Childbirth Without Pain.
I understand the calming effects of being in a hot tub etc, and all
comforting factors are appreciated and understood against my sorrow that the
wonderful woman is giving birth in pain and discomfort.
And for my part, I still believe that as a matter of Physics, a baby has
bouyancy. Gravity is a myth, the Earth sucks, however.
For a wonderful discussion on no pain births, ask Peter Jackson, Midwife,
Bowral - HypnoBirth'er. ...He loves water births ;-)
You have a right and an obligation to ask ME to think, and that's right. I
in turn, ask you to think...what's wrong with Labour? Why does it have to
HURT?
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, December 07, 2002 21:29:04
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water
Dear Frank - I endorse the comments of Mary, Jan, Sally etc. I'm assuming
you've had extensive experience with water births to come to this
enlightened opinion. I've never seen a newborn baby so filled with air that
it is like a ball underwater... in fact, in my text book they have no air
at all until they reach the surface and breath (so gently and beautifully).
Finally, a woman belongs where she wants to be -- if that happens to be a
birthing chair, fine, but NO ONE has the right to say YOU BELONG HERE OR
THERE while birthing. Have you heard of woman centred care?? Thank God for
caring thinking midwives like Pete (hug, and pat on the back from Lois).
Have a think about it Frank.
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From: "Frank Jockel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water
Hi,
I just have to give my two bob's worth regarding water births... I think
water births are the STUPIDEST idea since the Irish decided to land on the
sun at night.
What happens when you push a ball under water? Its bouyancy makes it pop UP
A baby has bouancy too. So unless the mother is willing to wear a snorkel
and mask and be upside down, pointing her perineum at the surface, the baby
is fighting bouancy and the uterus is fighting bouancy... stupid.
Get out of the water and onto a birthing chair where you belong and let
Gravity do the work
Water for fish..
Regards,
Frank Jockel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, 07 December 2002 03:41:26 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ozmidwifery] birthing in dam water
Could people tell me of their experiences with birthing in dam water, we
really don't have enough rainwater on site to use, this dam water is used
for general washing etc it runs through the solar hotwater service but is
quite turbid, yours in midwifery pete malavisi
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