Dear Robin
 
Perhaps you could get Dr Ric to support equal time for an informed discussion of what was shown and said on the program and its implications for the uninformed impressionable viewers??
Is that possible??
 
If he is as concerned as you say that women are informed and supported in their birth choices???
 
Denise hynd.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Robin Moon
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:28 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Today show c/s - Ric Porter

i'm afraid I need to stick my hand up ( just a little) in support of this obstetrician.
 
I worked with him for many years in the hospital system and thereafter was his consultant midwife in private practise with him; our daughters were friends at  school, so I think I know him reasonably well!
 
Whilst I'm the first one to heartily agree on the obscenity of the numbers of unneccesary c/s's , i think we need to keep an eye on the issue rather than making it personal. He's not an uncaring ogre, he's a product of the system. As infertility was/is his major practise he recognised he didnt have the time nor the *expertise* to enlighten women about the intricate vagaries of birthing and acknowledged that a midwife would do a far better job than him. My entire job was to spend an hour long session with them, every week if they wished, to talk about whatever birthing issues arose for them ( and this was apart from all hospital based antenatal programs). I also occasionally stood in as his 'locum'  for entire antenatal appointment days when the need arose.He was always supportive of the opinions of the midwives ( and he knew I was definately not an unopinionated one!) and is known to be approachable and debatable.
 
I can recognise that you would perceive him as arrogant, but in life that is not his way. He just loves the camera, and probably this is part of his downfall in this instance.
 
Dont attack him, attack the system .
 
Robin
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

In response to a woman's question "You don't have to worry about that. I have done this hundreds of times before and this is your first time. I know what you need."
----- Original Message -----
From: *G and S*
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 3rdStage Feedback

Alesia Wrote: "I dont know what info the women recieve during their antenatal care in Obs rooms"
 
 
0.000001 is the answer to your query Alesa.  And that is where the problem lies.
 
 
"Pregnant?
Come to my practice.  I'm an Obstetrician . 
I'll look after you. 
I know what I'm doing. You sure as heck don't.
Give me control over your body. I'll care for all your needs.
I won't try and educate you. I don't really have the time. 
I am the specialist, I am a surgeon and you... you are merely pregnant."
 
 
Does that feel familiar?
Hugs,  Sonia W.
 
 

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