Wow Andrea, what a biased approach. Sorry but I can't agree with you. You
obviously haven't grasped the concept of HypnoBirthing at all.

"The modern interpretation of his work (Grantly Dick Read) has evolved into
"hypnobirthing" which attempts to use autosuggestion and relaxation
techniques learned in the pregnancy as aids to a pain free labour."

The body automatically slows itself down creating more hormones in its
approach to birth and we are finding more and more that women are working
against the body's natural ability, working longer and pushing against this
natural relaxation. Encouraging the body back into this relaxation puts it
back at ease. At no time is it claimed with HypnoBirthing that birth WILL be
painfree although many times it is but certainly women are much more
comfortable during their labours.

"There is no evidence that a pain free labour is a normal labour, and indeed
the essential and necessary feedback mechanism from the contractions (often
experienced or described as pain) is important for a safe, natural birth."

There is no evidence either that pain is an absolute necessary for a safe
natural birth and our women certainly know when to work with their
contractions. They are not spaced out or unaware of what is going on around
them.

It's such a shame that you couldn't talk with HypnoBirthing mothers to
really find out THEIR truth rather than just writing it from an observers
point of view. It's very sad that in our present environment Childbirth
Education Classes run by many major hospitals (can only speak for Melbourne)
are not preparing women well  to give birth but doing their best with the
liability restraints now out there. This is in no way bagging the people who
teach them only the rules they have to follow. Sorry I am not meaning to
tread on any toes here.

I know that so many women just do not know what giving birth is really about
and a lot is due to our present society demands and not having the peer
support around them any more. I attended a class where 2 hours were spent
discussing complications. If the couples weren't programmed when they went
in, they certainly were when they walked out. Their faces told a a very sad
story.

I do not take what I do lightly and can only speak with what I HAVE
observed. Women deserve to have the birthing they want to have and if that
is working towards being more comfortable during labour then it IS their
choice. I and many others have made wonderful observations of birth over the
years and women learn HypnoBirthing because that's what THEY want to do not
because we force them to do it.

I take pride in the fact that I DO have an open mind and I certainly am not
naive about birth.



Diane Gardner



----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrea Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 6:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Hypno birthing


> I've been having a long running discussion about hypnobirthing on my
Diary.
> If you want to read the responses from the US contingent of hypnobirthers
> check out the entries and comments that were added in February. I also
> wrote some follow up pieces on endorphins and midwifery care that related
> to this issue.
>
> It is a hot issue for many people, but I still think that it is the type
of
> care that these women seek out (midwives and often home birth) and the
> action of their own hormones (endorphins) that is enabling them to labour
> well rather than any learned technique. IF they want to ascribe their
> success to a technique rather than their own innate abilities (and pay for
> someone to convince them of this during their pregnancy) then that is
their
> choice, of course.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andrea
>
>
>
> At 10:07 AM 11/03/2004, Judy Giesaitis wrote:
>
>
> >This sounds interesting, is there a website for further information
> >available please??  Judy Giesaitis.
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