Sure do! It's more than that though, it's parents who are not picking up their children because it "spoils them" and who are leaving babies on their backs all the time - in bed, in the pram, on the floor. I know parents who only pick their baby up to change their nappy. You don't even have to hold them to feed them their bottle (because no one bfs any more in mainstream land) because you can prop them up and use a bottle holder attached to a bib. Unless some massive revolution occurs with MCHNs and doctors, who are the greatest pushers of formula and CC, we're in deep trouble in this country. J ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep
> Hi all, > > Was wondering if anyone else thinks that there's a link between the increase > of plagiocephaly due to the SIDS idea of sleeping baby on back at the bottom > of the cot? > > Jo > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay > Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 9:46 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep > > Hi Miriam, > I have done the tiki tour - impressed and would definitely like to mention > safetsleep as an option in my book. I do appreciate all the work you are > doing and can see some great uses for safetsleep but also have some > questions: > > 1) I would be really concerned that some parents would use Safetsleep as a > 'restraint'. But I guess if that were the case, the same thinking would mean > > that they would not have grasped whatever gentle/ respectful info I had > written in the first place so were still coming from a 'convenient baby' / > baby as object to be trained mentality. ie -I personally would hate to see > such a product used to prevent a toddler from getting of of bed- I have read > > in at least one book and heard from a MB unit where the treatment for > toddlers who dont stay in bed is to remove the lightbulb and lock the door - > > although I highly doubt you would approve of this either. > > 2) I am pleased to see that the babies in the letters on your site who had > plagiocephaly also received physio -I have concerns that things like helmets > > on bubs only 'cosmetically' correct the symtoms (ie flat head) not the > causes ie the underlying reasons for torticolus/ positional turns ( retained > > reflexes ? neurology ? tight muscles). I know of several parents here who > have had feeding difficulties with such bubs ( ie uncomfortable feeding from > > one side/ refusal on one side) who have been treated either by a cranial > osteopath or a paediatric chiro and when this has been corrected, then these > > bubs are content to change sides etc (ie the "problem" is fixed not just the > > symptom - ie flat head). > > My own youngest child is regularly treated by a chiro ( initially because of > > dyslexia which improved remarkably). At the first visit it was found that he > > still had some early reflexes present and the chiro commented - "he would > have had difficulty breastfeeding?" My response was that as he was my 5th > child he wouldnt have had any difficulties - whether this meant holding him > upside down if necessary" of course i didnt do any such thing but certainly > would have compensated for any difficulty by altering feeding positions > rather than seeking a cause because at the time i wasnt aware that 'the > cause' ie a neurological problem/ retained reflexes could be involved. > > Incidentally, he didnt/ doesn't have a flat head - he coslept so would have > been side sleeping / changing sides perfectly safely and naturally, anyway. > (perhaps reinforcing my point that while symptoms can be corrected, this > doesnt necessarily mean the child is 'fixed') > > However, I do have to acknowledge that this isnt every parent's choice and > also that sadly, infant sleep is fraught with fear -Im amazed by comments to > > the mother in the testimonial (on your site) by her plunket nurse re the > danger of side sleeping - poor mums. > > Are you in Australia or Auckland? > I will send the handouts. > Pinky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Safetsleep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman > > > > pinky > > i hv a very keen interest to meet up with you at some stage...... > > .from what i have heard and read about you our philosophies are very > > similar. My background being mainly nursing, parenting, counselling, > > community work and nearly 20 years facilitating positive parenting > > workshops ,confidence building for women, trust building, sexuality /drug > > and alcohol awareness and other educationaly empowering issues ..... > > 29 yrs ago for my eldest son, and since then subsequent children, i > > happen to have designed a special sleepwrap which allows all natural > > movement depending on the age and stage of the baby, except those > > movements which could cause harm eg creeping and postional asphyxia, > > standing, climbing , falling, rolling off beds,helping to prevent and > > correct positional plagiocephaly (flat/deformed heads) and seems to provde > > > a sence of security with minimal restriction ( far less even than total > > swaddling)...mothers report babies sleeping better/longer/more > > peacefullyand for them a huge feeling of peace of mind > > 13 years ago initial trials spanned 6 months, involved over 300 babies, > > 600 parents and 15 clinicians from various fields within the medical > > profession (no mean feat as you will all know) > > since then consistent 20-25% of all first-time babies in nz are > > reached...several countries including european countries have received the > > > product and positive parenting philosophy that accompanies it very > > well.... with the enthusiasm and skill of one of my son's the product is > > just starting in the uk........ > > .hospital clinical trials were completed 2 yrs ago under the guidance of a > > > Canadian cranio-facial plastic surgeon, who was/is concerned with the 20% > > (!) of babies who do not respond to alternate head turning nor any of the > > interventions currently advocated and who will remain with permanently > > different degrees of deformed heads!.... > > copy of the published study on the sleepwrap is on www.safetsleep.com > > under 'heading 'medical facts' > > i have presented 3 medical papers at international level .....few details > > on the 'About Us' page ....more info avail., > > there is also a live wee video which takes aprox 2 mins to down load > > about 40% of my work over the past 13 years has really amounted to a > > community service in terms of education and am exhausted but elated that > > in the well over 150,000 babies who have used my sleepwrap ( auditable) we > > > have not had one reported 'cot death', or accident > > the nzcom and individual midwives have been hugly objectively supportive > > of the concept > > i would love to discuss 'sleep' aspects with you sometime and sincerely > > hope you can find some time to tiki-tour the website mentioned above > > everything in my literature is based on national and international > > stats...and published data....all evidence-based > > > > would welcome dialogue with anyone who is interested and a educational > > resource pack is avail., > > > > warm regards > > miriam rutherford > > mother/educator/designer/md > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:51 PM > > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman > > > > > >> thanks Janet - Brenda and I have "made up" and are speaking civilly to > >> each other re the dilemma of confused identity and schedules versus > >> mother support. > >> > >> I am currently writing a new book on infant sleep - all sleep stories/ > >> memories/ anecdotes - welcome. > >> > >> Better clarify - I will not be advocating parent directed feeding, > >> controlled crying or leaving babies to cry it out. > >> > >> please email me offline if you want to share > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Pinky > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > >> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:10 AM > >> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman > >> > >> > >>> Hear hear! > >>> : ) > >>> J > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:44 PM > >>> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> Just thought I would let everyone know that there is no way Pinky would > >>> ever > >>>> be in agreement with the Ezzo's and their teachings. In fact Pinky > >>>> spends > >>>> quite a lot of time with parents difusing the terrible belief systems > >>>> they > >>>> have, that were put in place by such people as the Ezzo's, Tizzie Hall > >>>> and > >>>> Gina Ford. Pinky's books are wonderful as a tool against such > >>>> teachings. > >>>> They encourage parents to follow their instincts, trust in themselves > >>>> and > >>>> also give great practical advice when needed. > >>>> > >>>> I have met Pinky online and in real life and heard her speak........she > > >>>> is > >>>> one of the best and most passionate speakers I have ever heard. Check > >>>> out > >>>> her site and read her books they are really gentle and wonderful. > >>>> http://www.pinky-mychild.com/ > >>>> > >>>> I wonder Brenda if you were thinking of Tizzie Hall. She is a shocker > >>>> and > >>>> her attitude is terrible towards babies and children. She makes heaps > >>>> of > >>>> money out of really bad advice. But I won't get on to the Tizzie > >>>> subject > >>> it > >>>> makes me dizzie! lol! > >>>> > >>>> Love Abby > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >>>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >> > >> -- > >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > >> > > > > > > -- > > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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