Just to add to this, after talking about this the other night, I've been thinking a bit about it too. Obviously an awareness of positioning of the baby is beneficial, but I'm with you Jo, too much emphasis on this, and not enough practical applications, or answers to the questions, and it becomes an unhealthy obsession...
Having said that, I'd be keen to try the Rebozo technique next time a persistent OP labour comes my way, (or should I say, a baby in a persistent OP position), but how? I understand the how of how to use the rebozo, but what about how long? And do I then need to keep checking by palp the position of the baby, to determine whether it's been effective? All sounds like a lot of disruption to the normal birthing process, and I'm not sure under what circumstances I'd be happy to instigate all this intervention... Any ideas from those more experienced? Tania x -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Thursday, 19 January 2006 5:28 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Thanks Nancy, Having had 2 stubborn OP babies myself I lived and breathed the Optimal Fetal Positioning for the second child. Interestingly I didn’t get so hung up on it the third time and that was the only babe who was OA. Must say that there is a danger sometimes in being too obsessed with doing the 'right' thing. What I am interested in though, is rationale for stubborn OP babies and the premature pushing urge. How does a woman who has laboured in a bath upright during all her labour overcome this problem? I have had an experience where one woman whose baby was LOA during the last weeks of pregnancy, turned OP during an active upright drug free labour and then after 22 hours turned only to have the fetal heart rate plummet resulting in CS. During the last 4 hours the urge to push was overwhelming and she was 6cm...lots of swelling and molding of baby head. Would this be why it took so long to turn? How do you avoid this? Is this common or is it indicative to a type of pelvis?? Need to dig deeper than just optimizing positions. I know babies can and do birth fully OP but the links with premature pushing urge is of interest to me. Thanks Jo -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy San Martin Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 12:56 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] RE: OP Hi Jo, Have you read any of Jean Sutton's work? She wrote a book called "Optimal Fetal Positioning" in which she describes all about OP causes and prevention. She also designed a Pregnancy Rocker to aid in the prevention of OP from 34 weeks onward. Any more info about the Pregnancy rocker ...email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards, Nancy -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean & Jo Sent: Monday, 16 January 2006 3:39 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery] References required Could someone point me in the direction on further information about stubborn OP presentations and the links with premature pushing urges? Much appreciated Jo -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/229 - Release Date: 1/13/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 1/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 1/18/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 18/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/234 - Release Date: 18/01/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
