I don't need to worry about workflows for this - which is great!

OK. I've created the new collection and all is good. I've recreated groups 
manually and have decided to go with exporting subsite groups as opposed to the 
entire site collection. The reason for this  (apart from the size) is that I 
want to bust the team sites out to their own site collections (hoping this is 
possible).

I'm really starting to see why keeping your site collections small is such a 
good idea/ Pity about the lack of cross-site web part support.

I want to attempt the following site collection structure from the old Groups 
collection.

Groups1
Groups1/team1
Groups1/team2
..

So, just a couple of questions:

-      Do I still need to setsitelock for the export command?

-      Will the import command successfully recreate the team sites at the site 
collection root?

Regards,

Paul
Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Turner
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 12:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Import/Export does have limitations.  It 'skips' workflows.... :(  they all get 
stripped out.


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From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 10:05 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

I'm fairly confident that's what broke this site collection in the first place. 
:)

Not the tool's fault necessarily but the "Include permissions" option looks 
like the cause of my many problems.

From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:27 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Have you tried using the SPContentDeploymentWizard 
(www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard<http://www.codeplex.com/SPDeploymentWizard>)
 by Chris O'Brien?  That seemed to work a charm for me when the out of the box 
content deployment failed.

________________________________
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:16 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

My intention is to restore it out-of-place to a newly created site collection 
at the root of a managed path.

e.g. domain.com/site1         ->      domain.com/site2

Hoping this is possible. If not, are there any limitations to the import/export 
command? None are stated.

BTW Sezai, Nathan et al, the new site collection works like a charm and has 
none of the permission or access issues being experienced in the other one.

I believe something went screwy with the security groups in the original import.

Regards,

Paul
Online Developer, ICT
CEO Sydney
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:13 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: RE: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

I have used stsadm to backup far larger web sites.  However I have had it fail 
a few time due to app pools being recycled or people accessing the site (or 
even a search crawl).  Do you need to restore it or are you just backing it up? 
 If it's backup, it's probably easier to backup the SQL database itself.  Much 
quicker and safer.  Just make sure the site is locked at the time though.

________________________________
From: ozmoss@ozmoss.com [mailto:ozm...@ozmoss.com] On Behalf Of Paul Noone
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 9:05 AM
To: ozmoss@ozmoss.com
Subject: Backup over 15GB using built-in tools

Hi all,

I've got a site collection I want to backup but MS advise that stsadm backup 
operation shouldn't be used for site collections larger than 15GB. Does this 
limit only apply to site collections? i.e. is it safe to backup the entire web 
app instead?

Kind regards,

Paul

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