On 8/23/11 5:39 PM, James A. Donald wrote: > On 2011-08-23 10:40 PM, Ian G wrote: >> The tit-for-tat comes from human behaviour, not from using a currency or >> any other feature of a design. A currency just helps to allocate the >> tits& tats more accurately, it isn't the cause of the behaviour. >> >> So, if you average things out with some sort of sharing / probability >> approach, you just won't see the tit-for-tat or other human solutions so >> clearly. >> >> Hence, abuse or inefficiency in allocation won't be seen. > > A currency enables us to allocate tits and tats with perfect precision. > There might be some intermediate measure, less restrictive and precise > that allocates tits and tats in a fashion that is probabilistically > accurate enough over time at lower accounting costs.
On a related note, we published a paper this past year (to appear in Transactions on Neworking "any time now") that characterized the efficiency gap between bilateral exchange ("tit-for-tat") and multilateral exchange in file-sharing systems like BitTorrent. http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~mfreed/docs/bilateral-tr10.pdf Multilateral exchange allows transitivity (A -> B -> C -> A), which may be realized through currency as a stored, fungible medium. The interesting thing is the theoretical analysis shows that under certain scenarios, bilateral exchange is sufficient, while in others it has a noticeable efficiency gap with multilateral exchange. Of course, once you deal with currency as a stored value for p2p systems, you need to deal either with variable prices, monetary policy, or fiscal policy. There's a similar discussion around Krugman's favorite parable: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Hill_Babysitting_Co-op Stored value remains a hard problem for p2p systems (which tit-v-tat systems somewhat avoid, but "UL/DL ratio" and reputation systems for private trackers do not). We saw this problem of monetary policy issues in MojoNation about a decade ago, as Zooko has written about. --mike _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list p2p-hackers@lists.zooko.com http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers